Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

My bad, it should be
New Wanted + New Ascension
Or New Wanted + Khan st4 (current stack)

In a stage of choosing an action/alpha title to stack with Wanted for next cycle

Is it New Sex Mastery: Become the Sex?

Limitless raikov is definitely gonna be a game changer

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I know you guys are holding Elizabeth and Cleopatra details close to your chest. But, I was wondering if you could let me know if either of those are gonna be intended to stack with seductress or just standalone?

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They’re standalone titles that can stacked with Seductress. They’ll stack well, but there’s no requirement to run it.

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I feel like every drop is a game changer in some way with how different the features are in each new/updated title they release

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Just wanted to share something ive noticed recently that may help others.

  • At least in my experience, marijuanna drastically reduces my results, especially in terms of how I notice and “feel” the day to day results and effects.

While I still made progress over the year, and I am am quite productive throughout the day, I got in the habit of smoking or doing edibles to wind down at the end of the day, nearly every day, for the past year. While I was still making progress at my goals, I wouldn’t say there was much momentum or enthusiasm behind them, and overall I just felt somewhat lethargic.

This may not effect everyone’s results in the same way, but for me when I smoke or consume weed, I feel quite dumbed down and lazy for the “high” period, and I wonder if it was effecting my ability to process the subs; as after quitting a few days ago I feel almost completely back to my former self, high flow factor, “feeling” the subs and my confidence massively raise. Worth noting; alcolhol doesn’t have the same negative effect on my results, and actually in social settings when out drinking results seem to be more prevelent, if not done to the extent of killing my energy.

I suspected this hampering with results for quite some time, as every time I go on a break, or im traveling out of the state and not smoking things go back to clicking; but I am starting to feel strongly that for some people who expierience the “dumbed down” type of high, it may effect your ability to process the scripts, especially if habitually using.

To summarize, if you are not getting the results you want to, and are a habitual smoker or are doing other things that drain your ability to think and process clearly (drugs, social media addiction, porn, shitty food) it may be worth cleaning up some of those habits first before expecting to conquer an empire. Probably obvious here to a lot of people, but some of the habits are sneaky in the sense that you can function fine on the day to day, but limit big breakthroughs and transformation.

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Curious to know more about this one. How would it be differ from limitess ? BL ?

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I appreciate this type of experiential and experimental post. Because peoples experiences can very widely with intoxicants, it’s handy to be able to see the range of different experiences with subliminals when consuming them.

I’ve experienced subliminals with both of these intoxicants before, and my experiences are different, although there are also some similarities. Probably on an individual basis, the best way to determine on a case by case basis is going to be to observe personal response with or without both over time, like you’ve done.

Probably there a number of other confounding factors like how much you’re smoking, how often, and what kind of break between uses, and similar with drinking. Much like how some programmers in the early days discovered mild alcohol intoxication helped them to program better (but large amounts not so much).

For me personally, with MJ, I’ve found that being used on a non-constant basis, sparingly (eg once or twice daily at maximum), at a low to moderate dosage (eg one or two joints, not consuming an entire bowl), usually in the evening or early morning… this type of usage has been consistent with actually improving relationship with the subconscious and the subs. It’s especially helpful in meditation. However, switching to the type of consumption I’ve seen others do (multiple bongs over several hours), this can paralyze the ability of the conscious and subconscious minds to fully express properly.

With alcohol, similarly, low consumption (less than 8 standard drinks) will often produce occasional insights related to the topics of the subs. But past a certain point, the wrong types of subconscious impulse will be triggered and the conscious mind is less able to filter them.

In both cases, and particularly with MJ, intoxicants will almost always (in my experience) affect/disrupt the REM cycle and thus the ability to dream. Upon stopping consumption completely, quite often you will have something happen called “REM rebound”, where the dreams temporarily become more vivid and frequent while the body returns to “normal” functioning.

But what this REM rebound shows me, given what dreaming is said to do, is that even when intoxicants are useful to the subliminal experience (eg to aid relaxation and connection with the subconscious), the integration phase (where memories and experiences are integrated) will be impaired, unless you take steps to avoid that. So like you experienced, progress can be impaired in forging new neural pathways and thus changing habits.

With that said, I have by no means extensive experience with experimenting, and who knows how these responses would change for example with the right supplementation (dietary, 5-HTP, tyrosine, etc). To me the states these intoxicants create are great for determining the limitations of what is possible, and for having certain types of experiences, but it’s not a good place for a person to dwell long term.

The most effective use I’ve found comes in reinforcing or training certain types of non ordinary consciousness to the point where they can be recreated without them.

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Curious if anyone has experienced something similar to this using the newer subs recently.

About 5-10 minutes after waking up from a nap (so connection to the subconscious still fairly good), I went to go to the bathroom. As I closed my bedroom door, the door was almost closed when I noticed my finger was stuck in it and about to be crushed. Over the course of no more than a second or two I was able to notice this about to happen, stop pulling the door closed, and yank my finger clear just in time so there was no damage.

Reflexes were thus way better than I’m used to. I went and looked at AEON and BL copy again but didn’t see anything relating to improved reflexes. Possible that this is bleedover from running HeO earlier in the year of course (I had been preparing to run it again at the end of my current cycle). And AEON has time compression which could mean faster reflexes, but I haven’t seen any reports of this from others.

Anyone seen improved reflexes on either of these? (especially AEON)

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@Fire so any news on the new title Limitless:raikov ? :grinning:

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@SaintSovereign @Fire

Curious about Limitless Executive, surprised it is not on the release schedule as both Executive and Limitless are already updated

Any plans for that title?

Edit: wonder if it will be a surprise drop :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

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The more energy we have the more we can put the subliminal ideas into activity and have results and drugs can temporarily alter how our biology functions and how energetic we are and all that. Any chemical you put into your body in large amounts at the same time you will have some sort of effect going on that will affect how you feel and how you experience life and how your mind functions so.

If we become very energetic, have constantly high but balanced energy levels, if our biology functions properly then it will not be difficult to have profound results with the programs. But taking drugs for this is never good I think. Drugs can temporarily give you some experience by introducing something external in our body but the innate chemicals in your body can already do this. The only problem is a lack of energy. On high energy levels you produce a lot of chemicals and on low energy levels very little. Your body functions on chemicals so the programs can only work in as far as there is fuel available for us to live and operate our body and mind.

One can always try a drug and see how they respond differently within the parameters of safety and your own well-being but I think we should all strive to be high on our own supply of happiness, joy, vibrance, bliss and general magnetism that radiates from your aura when you are feeling deeply alive inside of yourself.

That’s my stance on it. If you conserve your energy and build it up, any excess can go to healing or feeling charged and happy. If your brain and body is charged it will produce a lot of chemicals, work well and you will feel good-health and body blissfulness, feeling creative, expanded, connection and just ready to live and experience life with depth.

Now suddenly with an excess supply of energy you can think thoughts you have never thought before and use your intelligence in ways you never imagined. While before the mind may have been a prison with a continuous circulation of unwanted and limiting thoughts keeping us caged, now suddenly you can look beyond that and experience the miraculousness of a completely undeterred mind that can explore the vast expanse of life in every direction.

Me myself, going through big energy fluctuations in the past have noticed how life can go from dull and colourless to bright and full of color. Everything is in relationship to our own inner experience and our subjective life. How we sail through life is entirely based upon the experience we have within ourself and how we interact with the life around us. And drugs who spike your energy can suddenly make you experience a wider and broader world which is always there but a lack of energy doesn’t make many people access that. So we can live much richer lives, first within ourselves and then in how we go through life externally when we have excess energy to open up the mind to a greater experience, that is sleeping inside of us, because it will only wake up once the extra energy is there. Children have this experience until adult life slowly and almost unrecognisably drains them of all their inner life. They are full of imagination and very dreamy, life is rich to them and full of joy, connection, inspiration, creativity, insight, to them drugs seem absurd because they are already drugged by life itself.

Imagine if we can reclaim the same energy levels plus more, how we can live such a magical life and live 5 times more than another person and experience life much more intensively and with greater awareness, presence and depth.

Feeling alive is the only true value if you ask me.

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I quit weed a few months ago.

I did notice it does reduce my brain ability to process subs. It just feels like the bandwidth is reduced.

But this is strictly my experience, I am no telling others what they should or shouldn’t do. I come from the weed industry, from 2013-2022 I had dispensaries, grows, and in 2020-2021 we had the largest processing lab in California so I have seen every side to this plant.

It has many upsides. From 2019-2022 I was doing dabs every single day. Before meetings, before gym, before anything really, and it weirdly helped me function. My words flowed better, gym sessions I had more endurance(this one is weird, muscle endurance goes up and I can do more sets/reps), and overall stress never got to me.

But it wasn’t sustainable, eventually it started to dumb me down and the anti stress effect turned into constant major anxiety. Now that I’m off, my brain feels a lot sharper and sleep is better. Again, in moderation IMO it has upsides. But now that I’m off, I don’t feel any reason to go back.

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This is most likely HERO: Origins. It’s directly stated in the script. AEON could be helping with the “perception” side of reflexes, however.

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Can we get a sneak peak at what’s to come?

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I am very eager for the Heartsong update, because manifesting a lifelong partner is something deeply important to me. If I remember (correct me if I am wrong) the update scripting provoked a type of self love recon to people ?

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The general underlying theme is that people began to question whether a “soulmate” or perfect person existed for them, leading to recon. Many got good results on it, but clearly this issue needs to be resolved. I think Dragon Reborn: Regeneration inner spa style scripting would be good for this.

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We are finalizing a new, previously unannounced, completely unknown title for release sometime this month or next month. It is a fun title.

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Can you tell us anything more please? :smiley:

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