Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

[heartmadeiron]

Dont you dare break up stack. So help me!

But also yes.

[Goldfinger]

You still think it’s safe?

Did it survive new KB?

[heartmadeiron]

I dont plan on using Khan black ever. The only issue is the diamond upgrade means upgrading my NE Emp Daddy/Diamond.

[SubClubHouseMafia]

A wild Friday has appeared

SaintSovereign used Khan ZPU!

It’s super effective!

[unusualfellow]

I’m not at your level…yet…

ALL my best friends are like you with women & don’t understand how I’m not just like them

I need Emperor & Reforge in my stack
Best results come from long term stacks

And Khan Black is something that could amp things up for you energetically
I can’t bc I have too many products already in my field

[hyperbeam]

Its okay. You are not souring the mood for me. I was just guessing what the next alpha titles would be upgraded.

Even if Emperor is released then, I can enjoy my current stack, wait for it. When its out, I’ll evaluate the sales page and see if it’s a fit for me.

[SaintSovereign]

@Floridianninja

Would that mean that you might do Emperor before Diamond?

Nah. Parts of DIAMOND are going in Emperor.

EDIT. And then parts of Emperor will go in Khan. Then, Khan leads to Primal, which leads to Primal Seduction, Primal Nights, etc. That’s how we’ve always operated.

[Lion]

@SaintSovereign

Parts of DIAMOND are going in Emperor

Ooooh

[SaintSovereign]

@SaintSovereign

With the release of the New Khan Black, we are now pivoting back to the action-oriented, “outward facing” titles. While we’ve all seen how the internal and “Reforged” style titles perform, wait until you get your hands on the ZPU hard alpha titles.

What I meant was, we’ve spent quite a long time on very introspective, inner cultivation titles, starting with GLM. Then Dragon Reborn: Regeneration, Summertime, PEACE, LBfH, Reforged, etc. We did that to deeply develop that style of scripting. Now it is time to pivot to action-oriented titles that drives achievement and success. Beginning with RenMan, then Emperor Fitness, Ascended Mogul and so forth.

As we develop ZPU’s “action scripting,” this will lead to Khan, Primal, WB, etc.

[driller]

@SaintSovereign

parts of Emperor will go in Khan. Then, Khan leads to Primal, which leads to Primal Seduction, Primal Nights, etc. That’s how we’ve always operated.

We should have this kind of chronology on every sub’s sales page. This would help people who are looking for a focused journey toward a specific goal decide which titles to choose, while those looking for generalized growth across all areas can aim for those titles instead.

It would also give everyone a bigger picture of where they are in their journey and which areas they might be lacking in. They could focus on those areas for some time before moving on to heavier titles.

[Ryder]

@SaintSovereign

then Emperor Fitness,

I know it’s not out but can I already start asking questions about this one?

Mainly, if one is already running LoTS, is there any advantage to also running EF?

And I know this question will get asked/has been asked/will keep getting asked but: any testosterone increasing scripting in EF or in general plans for the future? Maybe as a module?

[SaintSovereign]

@driller

We should have this kind of chronology on every sub’s sales page. This would help people who are looking for a focused journey toward a specific goal decide which titles to choose, while those looking for generalized growth across all areas can aim for those titles instead.

I’m not quite sure if that would help the way people would think. The order we create titles in doesn’t necessarily indicate a “pathway” that an individual should take. For us, it’s “which future title(s) would benefit from what’s being worked on now.” That doesn’t quite equate to customers basing their journey on our development strategy.

[SaintSovereign]

@Ryder

I know it’s not out but can I already start asking questions about this one?

Mainly, if one is already running LoTS, is there any advantage to also running EF?

And I know this question will get asked/has been asked/will keep getting asked but: any testosterone increasing scripting in EF or in general plans for the future? Maybe as a module?

I’m not sure. @Fire is working on it, but I haven’t heard much about it. The best thing to do is to post your ideas and questions in the idea thread so it doesn’t get lost: Main Idea Thread - Emperor Fitness

[anon15812918]

@SaintSovereign

The order we create titles in doesn’t necessarily indicate a “pathway” that an individual should take

still, the pathway part would be cool tbh. Like “Emperor is a hard title so if you aren’t ready to jump straight in and want to build up to it, consider Genesis Ascension + Mogul”, for example

btw how’s the new LABS coming along?

[Golgo13]

@Sebastian_Po

or even RM ？

“The Renaissance Man is the soulful and emotionally-liberated alpha”

I don’t think HARD Alpha when I think of RM.

[SaintSovereign]

lol, yes – I didn’t clarify myself well. There are two statements here:

@SaintSovereign

With the release of the New Khan Black, we are now pivoting back to the action-oriented, “outward facing” titles.

Renaissance Man falls under this. It’s not just inner creativity, there’s a strong action-taking component. And then:

@SaintSovereign

While we’ve all seen how the internal and “Reforged” style titles perform, wait until you get your hands on the ZPU hard alpha titles.

That will be next year. Emperor is the conclusion of Season 4. Then we head into Season 5: Into the Wonder II: ***** *** *********

[SaintSovereign]

@anon15812918

btw how’s the new LABS coming along?

Quite well. We are hoping to have everything done by the start of the next season, releasing it all at once.

Yes @Moon , including new masks.

[Bull_of_Shiva_999]

@SaintSovereign

What I meant was, we’ve spent quite a long time on very introspective, inner cultivation titles, starting with GLM. Then Dragon Reborn: Regeneration, Summertime, PEACE, LBfH, Reforged, etc. We did that to deeply develop that style of scripting.

How about earlier mentioned upcoming title “LIFE”… Sounds like continuation that line (like titles mentioned in the quote) but will the title be more outward focused instead?

[SaintSovereign]

@Bull_of_Shiva_999

How about earlier mentioned upcoming title “LIFE”… Sounds like would be in that line (like titles mentioned in the quote) but will the title be more outward focused instead?

Not every title will be outward facing. Keep in mind that titles like RoS, RoM, RoD, etc. are also major players for the next season. The philosophy of the season will make sense a bit later. It’s a bit too early to explain in-depth, as we want to focus on the titles that will finish out the season. But the “hint” is the fact that we will be clearly alternating between what one would call a spiritual or inner title, followed by one of the alpha / action titles.

There’s a natural duality this back and forth creates: “How do I explore my inner life, what do I truly feel about things,” followed by a title that would help the individual embody and express that clarity through embodied action.

More information as we approach January.

[Bull_of_Shiva_999]

@SaintSovereign

There’s a natural duality this back and forth creates: “How do I explore my inner life, what do I truly feel about things,” followed by a title that would help the individual embody and express that clarity through embodied action.

Sounds like new season title copies can use “inner & outer %” pie chart and “action dependency” meter