Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

will we see new labs in september?

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You made me curious so I did a little research.

The device was easy to find using AI.
That tech is nothing new though, if you are familiar with real esoteric and occult stuff.
They now try to replicate the desired effects with a physical device and market it to the mainstream.
The device was even featured on BBC and VICE, that alone are big red flags.
What they are not telling, but much more likely is I think that they actually don’t know this, is that the effects of this device can be fully done without even using a physical device in the first place and through digital means only. But I will gatekeep this one.

Knowing how this device works, I am predicting that whatever effects it will do on your physical brain, your subconscious mind will either block it or overwrite it as it considers necessary by itself. Reason: Device works on physical neurological level. Subconscious mind is neither physical nor the result of a physical brain but works outside of space and time and can fully influence it.

Furthermore, I am 99% convinced that simply running Revelation of Dreams ZP will give you 1000x more results here. And all that in safe manner, because everything will be done by your own subconscious mind instead of by some experimental external physical device.

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I’m not sure I’m following this part. The subconscious is responsible for things like autonomous breathing. In order to allow that process it would have to in some way be physical. It sounds like you’re talking about something else.

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Yes. It is one of a Million things that it controls.

No, not necessarily.

Think of it as an independent field of consciousness that is able to influence information, energy and matter.
I.e. it can go anywhere in space and time and beyond.
And it can touch anything in space and time, and beyond.
The only that can stop it from doing whatever it wants are the other fields of consciousness of other beings. Hence free will and such.
When free will fields overlap, co-manifestations happen.

You can find proof for this for yourself by experimenting with reconciling topics with other humans/beings that are physically far away from you. There is no need to even learn psychic and telepathic skills and such. Only need a clear intent connection that is approved by both parties subconscious minds.

For example, in EFT tapping there is a technique called ā€œproxy tappingā€, where you instruct your own subcoscious mind to resolve issues in others. Basically, you tap points on your meridians on your body and using your own consciousness to transfer the ā€œenergetic release effectā€ to another person, or even to an animal, to resolve these issues and energetic blocks in them.

It really does work and many people use it to resolve e.g. trauma in their animals, since animals cannot listen to subs and have no conscious knowledge of placebos or similar things.

Sub Club team even created a module that works with the same underlying mechanics:

If you are up for the task, you could build a healing custom with that module and help others, who agree to this, help them resolve and heal certain topics.
Once they agreed to be helped (at least on some level) you can use this custom and listen to it and use your own subconscious mind to remotely reconcile topics for THEM. It works, because their subconscious mind is also neither physical, nor a product of their physical brains.

As for acquiring consent to help others: people will verbally give it to you, animals will show it through their behavior, with plants you will probably need psychic skills to understand their feedback etc.
And also ZP scripting is already written in a way to respect other’s free will and ask for permission, so your subconscious mind will not reconcile anything for anyone with that module unless they really agree to it.

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RoD just does some shit to you man, idk. Even a year later, life’s just different

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The device was not featured on BBC and Vice so we’re not talking about the same thing hehe

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Why? What happened?
Did it reveal things to you that you were not yet ready to see?

There’s a very large amount of room for discussion here. These concepts and areas of discussion are not generally considered anywhere near settled or even properly conceptualized in 2026.

I think of mind as non-physical, but in the sense of its being a different order phenomenon.

It’s basically the particle-wave contrast. A wave is not reducible to a physical substance because it is a different order of phenomenon. More an expression of change through time. Without physical media, waves do not propagate and are not expressed. But it’s also true that you can’t dissect a wave and find the physical building blocks of the wave. And you can’t catch a wave, put it in a box, and then take it home with you for investigation.

To me, mind belongs to to that category of phenomena. Patterned Propagation Across Time (i.e., Wave).

But waves are strongly influenced by the media through which they propagate. Water. Sand. Organic/neural structure. And so on.

So we can’t (in my view) reduce the mind to the brain. But the brain is still highly influential on the unfolding and expression of MIND and mental pattern.

None of this requires mysticism (in its conventional sense).

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well then,at least to include some scripts for self control and stamina for the users ,so they could last as long as they want and enjoy as much as they want怂I remember someone mentioned this before,I might just say again,the increasing sensitivity towards sexual pleasure on one hand is really good,but also at the risk of losing control easily(premature ejaculation)。and that is the opposite of the goal the title intending to achieve,well ,at least not the users want…so please,this problem is quite serious… :grinning:

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:comet::comet::comet:

Any ETA on release?

dammit cmon I’m tired of breaking my stack…but tell me more plz

@JCDenton if you wanna share what RoD does feel free as well, its a sub I can’t quite figure out by reading the description

The goal is directly stated in the name of the title: The Revelation (Unveiling) of Dreams. It is for people who use their dream life as information to inspire and guide the conscious waking life.

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Not really. We’ve got nervous system regulation scripting now.

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Lmfao no, it just hit deep. Also a really good booster to any stack for multiple reasons.

It’s a revelation title, so you get out of it what you put into it. I get crazy manifestations on it that are related to whatever my stack is.

When I’m even a little focused on something, dreams are like a conversation between me and the rest of my mind about that thing. The density/build of the sub matter a bit in terms of how overt it is, but it’s surprisingly easy to see what the sub is working on by looking at the dream I had the previous night.

I feel like there’s a lot more that could be done with it and that I’m a little narrow in how I’ve been guiding my results.

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@SaintSovereign just for clarification since I got a conflicting answer from support a few months ago back when ZPU builds were new. If I rebuild a name embed I made before ZPU was the standard, will its build technically be stronger by nature of it being in ZPU now instead of ZPv2, or should I manually increase the strength in the build options?

All customs are by default stronger and more effective due to the ZPU build, which comes with its own set of ā€œstandard scripting.ā€

This includes rebuilds as well. If you have an older custom that served you well, it will perform even better upon upgrading.

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I think one of my biggest wishes would be for a rebuild option that lets you swap out a few of the modules for different ones at the same time.
I imagine it’s something that you guys will magic up at some point lol (perhaps in future Q Pro or similar) :slight_smile:

Love what you’ve done with the ZPU build already though, eternally grateful :pray:t2:

Glad also to hear that you may be doing separate versions of Diamond for men and women.
Love that title and really looking forward to see where you take it next :slight_smile:

@SaintSovereign Stupid question here, but does this apply to Name Embedded Major Titles as well?

Yes, it applies to Name Embedded Major Titles custom too.

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