Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

See that makes more sense but the answer they sent is confusing.

Also when I ask qoS the benefits between Quantum vs QTKS, it gave me the worst answer I’ve ever seen (sorry saint). It literally told me one is using your voice and the other is biggest power level.

It stated the obvious and didn’t even answer my question lol.

QTKS and Quantum sit on different axes. QTKS determines whose voice delivers the subliminal. Quantum determines the power level of the build. Our QTKS documentation lists the available power levels as Standard, Express, Terminus and Terminus Squared - so the choice isn’t QTKS or Quantum, it’s which power level you run your QTKS build at.

If Saint has said QTKS is the most superior build we’ve made, that’s a stronger statement than anything we publish, and he’d be the authority on it rather than me. I’m not going to contradict him. What I can tell you is that “superior build” and “faster physical shifting” aren’t the same claim, and I don’t have grounds to make the second one on his behalf.

^^ if support just says Saint says xyz then that’s the case than it makes it useless for me to ask support about a question and just ask you instead as what I’m reading when they say that is that they don’t know anything.

(not hating or anything but support left me with more questions than answers haha)

All I know is when I wanted money-
Sultan worked for me like RICH

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Also @SaintSovereign , QoS has been hallucinating lately:

Worth pointing out: Aura of Wealth, which you’re already running, is the module that does the job you were asking about. It’s categorized under Auras and Energy and works by shifting your internal state toward confidence, gratitude and openness, creating a presence that attracts opportunities and connections.

That’s the division of labor. Aura of Wealth handles the presence and magnetism side; Sultan handles the money arriving and the status that follows it. Adding Sultan wouldn’t strengthen your aura, because that isn’t its job and you already have the module whose job it is.

I have never even mentioned Aura of Wealth in my ticket so it just randomly said this out of nowhere.

This was the ticket:

Could you give a detailed response on what Sultan does. We have the description, we have what support shared but it’s still not super clear to me on what it does to someone who listens to it from a results standpoint. Like is it pure manifestation scripting or is there anything kind of aura or alpha scripting in it?

Example: Let’s say I’m in sales. Does Sultan purely give me results in terms of manifestations like making me more money in my career and manifesting more commissions in the business or does it do more like increase my aura and or make me more alpha or something due to the scripting?

So Sultan doesn’t really have any manifestation relating to it? @SaintSovereign

Support says it will make more money in your current work aka manifest money but your answer is saying the money comes from creating new services or products to make more money. This is where the confusion is happening haha.

Sent a reply back to support as the answer lately to my tickets have been super disappointing :cry:

Apparently according to support, status is more so a side effect of making more money from the module.

Curious, how does it differ from Secret Source?

They didn’t “randomly” say anything, they directed you to the module that better fits your inquiry. You asked about Sultan’s capabilities, support responded with:

Worth pointing out: Aura of Wealth, which you’re already running, is the module that does the job you were asking about.

This is exactly what Support has been instructed to do – point out the module that better fits the job.

From Aura of Wealth’s description:

Aura of Wealth is a module created specifically for Revelation of Wealth and made to fit with customs. Aura of Wealth cultivates a magnetic energy of abundance by shifting your internal state to one of confidence, gratitude, and openness. It teaches you to consciously align your thoughts and emotions with wealth, creating a presence that naturally attracts opportunities, connections, and success. As you embody this energy, your life becomes a reflection of the abundance you carry within—a harmonious balance of confidence, gratitude, and endless possibility.

This is literally what you asked for.

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It said “which you’re already running” it but @SaintSovereign I’m not running it nor have I ever mentioned that I was so yes they in fact did say it randomly lol.

@Plutus - I said this to you- The Golden One is BY FAR the best module to add for manifestation in sales. Trust me.

New EOG and Noveoue RICH do not stack well with sales for me- to much skill and pull in other directions (old EOG was more opportunity-based, it seemed, and stacked well)

ASBR and New RICH are awesome for sales

HOM & C&C can be if done correctly after an acclimation period.

ROW is also incredible -but microloop first.

Khan has proved invaluable for sales as well. The status, succinctness, and comfort with myself. The sexual and dominance scripting translates over with NWE and wealth as well. There is a learning curve here for sure though.

If your sales involve less data and more conversation, True Social is also incredible for nuance.

Edit: Syngergy: Divine Dominion improves manifestation results as well in sales

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They (because you are talking to an actual person), have instructions to look at past tickets to get an overview of the situation. The only thing they’re trying to do is SAVE YOU MONEY by directing you to a module that fits your needs better. It was a simple mistake, and certainly not necessary for all of this. Just ask me the direct question next time and I’ll clear it up.

First, neither one of us said Sultan didn’t contain manifestation. We just said it wasn’t “pure manifestation,” like you’d find in features of R.I.C.H. It ties back to the “finding unique ways to create wealth,” and the manifestation scripting is filtered through that.

@Antares – Secret Source is more focused on ideation and execution, less manifestation.

Like @unusualfellow said, Sultan will feel like R.I.C.H. so long as you have a method of exploring those new ways of income development.

The suggestion of Aura of Wealth fits much of what you’re asking for, considering True Sell, ASBR and the other titles you like to run are full of manifestation scripting.

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@SaintSovereign sorry I flagged your post by accident

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Yes, Nouveau R.I.C.H. is an innovator / market disruption title. It’s designed for a person to enter a market that may already be crowded and then innovate within it. Think Red Ocean Strategy: Red Ocean Strategy vs Blue Ocean Strategy I Learn the Difference

Probably not the best for sales – True Sell will always take the crown for that, even over EoG.

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do you mind telling your overall results with ROW? Not just sales related

I agree not a big deal (hopefully it didn’t seem that way). I will ask you moving forward, I just don’t want to annoying often with these types of questions as I know you’re busy.

So in that case, could you share more details on how Aura of Wealth in a custom would help in terms of manifestations for someone in sales for increase salary in the career and commisions?

Well, it’s right there in the description:

Aura of Wealth cultivates a magnetic energy of abundance by shifting your internal state to one of confidence, gratitude, and openness. It teaches you to consciously align your thoughts and emotions with wealth, **creating a presence that naturally attracts opportunities, connections, and success.

As you embody this energy, your life becomes a reflection of the abundance you carry within**—a harmonious balance of confidence, gratitude, and endless possibility.

This is an aura + manifestation module. First, it helps you develop an abundance and wealth oriented mindset, which means you’ll naturally give off an “aura of wealth,” physically and energetically. Then, there’s NSE-style manifestation scripting that helps attract opportunities and the such.

I believe you can see how this directly maps to what you’re asking. It is not focused just on sales, but the manifestation aspects should generate results regardless. As for the aura itself, that’s good for networking, “rubbing elbows” with the higher ups / wealthy clients, etc.

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Yeah man I agree. I will test it with The Golden One this type for sure now. What about Aura of Wealth? Any thoughts on that?

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This looks awesome thank you @SaintSovereign this is exactly what I want as an answer!!!

If you don’t mind just giving me some insights on how adding Aura of Wealth would add new results/what results it would give when this is my custom:
Stark Black Core
EoG: True Sell Core
NEW R.I.C.H Core
Direct Influencing Aura
Nomad
SPS: Fat Burn
Lifeblood Fable
Transcendal Connection
Hyperfocus Engine
Wanted: Physical Shifting
Synergy: The Golden One
Aura of Wealth

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are there any inherent benefits to longer cycles (current 60d ones compared to 21d)?

is it wiser to build up in duration first or cycle length?

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  1. Stabilizer

  2. Emperor: Crown & Capital

  3. True Sell Stage 1

  4. Synergy: The Golden One

  5. Synergy: Wonders of Life

  6. Safety Net

  7. Job Seeker

  8. Revelation of Product Creation

  9. Singularity Paradox: Wealth

  10. Sanctuary

  11. Divine Self-Image

  12. Joy of Wealth

  13. Joie de Vivre

  14. The Lazy Genius

  15. Dominion

  16. Naturalizer

  17. Unwitnessed Light (consistency while unwitnessed)

  18. Keystone (be the person the business can’t function without)

  19. The Solar Treasury (maker’s drive - give value freely and it will come, stop chasing)

  20. Win-Win Negotiation (Negotiate and solve problems for all parties, get what you want)

@Azriel @Plutus @Niles

Made this custom 2 nights ago

Realized how good my results were with wealth while I was running C&C, and how they’ve lessened since, and I basically forgot about how efffective C&C was because of how excited I was about the new drops… reforged, ascension, peace, all of them have been extremely beneficial for me!!!

So, reintroducing C&C will be amazing.

I wish I added aura of wealth because this whole custom is designed around getting into a position in my career where I feel joy, love money and have no stress around it, and get into a real leadership position that I can use as a turning point for a long term sales management type career

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This ticket from support was helpful, I asked about the differences between true sell st 1 and st 4, and how they’d stack with C&C

Summary

Hello,

The key thing to know first is that the True Sell stages aren’t intensity tiers of the same material. They’re four sequential links in one commercial chain: the seller, the pipeline, the close, and the wealth that follows.

Stage 1 is the seller himself - confidence under pressure, communication, the ask. Stage 2 is the pipeline, the machine that keeps qualified opportunities entering your calendar. Stage 3 is the close, turning qualified conversations into business that stays signed. Stage 4 is the wealth conversion - pricing power, larger rooms, diversified income, inbound reputation, and retaining what you earn.

That distinction matters for both of your questions.

WHERE CROWN & CAPITAL ALREADY SITS

C&C isn’t neutral ground here. Its Capital half includes Premium Pipeline, The Attractor, Inner Circle: Alliance Architect, Negotiator’s Scepter, Capital Focus, Wealth Ladder, Treasury Shield, Tax Mastery, Market Instinct and House of the Emperor. It even carries a component called True Sell: Execution Steel.

Map that against the four stages and the picture is uneven. C&C covers a good deal of Stage 2’s territory through Premium Pipeline, The Attractor and alliance building. It touches Stage 3 through Negotiator’s Scepter. And it covers a great deal of Stage 4 - raising your level, retaining earnings, building inbound reputation, multigenerational structure.

What it covers least is Stage 1. C&C largely assumes you can sell and builds the apparatus around that ability.

C&C WITH STAGE 1 VERSUS STAGE 4

Given the above, Stage 1 is the more complementary pairing, and by a clear margin.

With Stage 4, you’d be stacking a wealth-conversion engine on top of a title that already contains a wealth-structure engine. Both address turning earning power into compounding, retained wealth with a reputation that generates inbound business. That’s reinforcement rather than expansion - it would intensify what C&C already does rather than adding a dimension.

With Stage 1, you’d be adding the one link C&C treats as a given. C&C builds the empire around the seller; Stage 1 builds the seller. Confidence under pressure, the quality of the conversation, the willingness to make the direct ask - none of that is C&C’s subject, and all of it determines whether the apparatus has anything to process.

So if you’re choosing between them to pair with C&C, Stage 1 is the one that fills a gap.

WHICH PARTS OF STAGE 4 EXIST IN LESSER FORM IN STAGE 1

Honestly, none of them - and the framing is worth correcting, because it’s the more useful answer.

Because the stages are different links rather than different strengths, Stage 1 doesn’t contain a weaker version of Stage 4’s content. What connects them is dependency rather than duplication. Stage 4’s work on raising your rate and pursuing larger rooms rests on the composure Stage 1 develops: you can’t hold a higher price under pressure without the pressure tolerance, and you can’t walk into a bigger room without the self-presentation. Stage 1 underpins Stage 4 rather than previewing it.

One thing that may have prompted your question: the Stage 1 product page carries the description of the whole four-stage system, including lines about pricing power and turning selling into a more valuable career. That’s system-level copy describing all four stages, not a list of what Stage 1 itself contains.

STAGE 1 AND STAGE 4 STACKED TOGETHER

They’re the two ends of the chain with the middle left out. You’d be building the seller and the wealth conversion while skipping the pipeline and the close.

Whether that’s a problem depends on you. If your pipeline is already full and your close rate is fine, it’s an efficient pairing - you’d be strengthening the person and the wealth outcome without paying for machinery you already have. If either of those is actually weak, you’d have a confident seller and a wealth-conversion engine with a gap where deals are generated and signed.

Worth noting that if C&C is also in the picture, it partially fills that middle through Premium Pipeline and Negotiator’s Scepter. C&C with Stage 1 and Stage 4 would cover the chain reasonably well - though that’s three heavy items, so watch the total load rather than the item count.

Best regards,

Support Team