Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

The dominance, self control, dark edge, and hint of danger in Emperor Black in a ‘romance’ title directly would be incredible. Everything about Emperor Black from the lack of validation seeking, the sense of identity and self outside of social, the particular kind of dominance that is so dominant- like way more than Khan in my experience, (it has no need or push and just feels stronger- people comply, respect, so easily on Emperor Black compared to Khan or even emperor) would be so powerful if it could maintain that for seduction/romance/ dating, social

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A couple of thoughts on PEACE, ZONE, ZPU and unexpected secondary results.

Some of the strongest results I get right now are not the ones advertised. (That’s a good thing.)

The fine sense of smell on ZONE is still something else. (My wife stopped listening to ZONE a while ago, still got it. It can be a bit disturbing when you smell everything a tiny bit foul from meters away. It’s probably due to smell/taste being often focussed senses for us with regards to cooking and fragrances. If there ever will be a Cooking Mastery X…)

ZONE also seems to train memory capability, which might be actually related to the smell thing. (Smell and memory are located in the same area of the brain.)

From all the nervous system regulating subs, nothing relaxes as thoroughly and brings more secondary results as PEACE. (Note: I’ve got in a custom so can not pinpoint every result 100%.) Discussions with the subsconscious are much more fruitful on PEACE (without fight or flight mode).

PEACE (+ Summertime productivity modules + ZPU format) brings more for productivity and workflow than anything else before.

PEACE (+new ZPU custom format) seems to help vitality and health, more than e. g. Paragon.

This is probably a momentary observation.

Stress was brutal the last couple of months. If a tensed up nervous system always was the bottleneck, PEACE, naturally, brings relieve quickly. (I was incredibly sleepy the first time on PEACE. It wasn’t recon exhaustion, but just the need for deep restful sleep.) Once the nervous system is fully relaxed, a new baseline will probably be found. (I suspect though with permanent stress due to social media, everpresent screens and these uncertain times a stressed nervous system might be the bottleneck for many.)

It would be very interesting to explore this framework (totally relaxed nervous system + one rather focussed key goal) further. Diamond will be a blast. Game Mastery X too.

What fascinates me is the singular dial, that changes the whole system, often in unexpected ways.

And I suspect there are countless more dials.

Let’s say: Nervous System Relaxation + nothing but the joy of walking, exploring and fresh air. If weight, no regular appetite, not enough movement, vitamin D deficancy or bad moods are the root of the health problems, this should do the trick.

With these rather slim subs one can better catch the unexpected results, which I guess would make innovation easier. (Though innovations have been plenty in the last couple of months.)

This is not completely thought through yet.

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Im truly curious how this new version of HS is going to look like in its objectives and especially if it’ll be designed to stack with titles like WDB or be run INSTEAD of titles like WDB.

I have found that with PEACE too. It seems to act as a counterpoint to the issues I experience on ZONE, which are due to my own physical body structure and habitual posture. It tells me when it’s time to take a break, and while I can ignore that ping for a while, eventually one is obliged to follow the clear guidance.

What I’m finding for my own unique situation is interesting, in that my own ability to handle the states which ZONE assists is dependent on being able to grasp the larger picture at play with precision (especially in health/ergonomics) and move past the tension which gets embodied in perfectionist tendencies. Not an easy challenge, but something I feel that ZPU has helped to make clearer in its finer details. ZPU certainly seems to improve the precision with which the subconscious and conscious mind are able to communicate with one another.

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2nded.

As another member of this forum wrote, PEACE feels like the most quintessential ZPU. So true. It IMV changes everything subwise.

It gets to the root of things, effortlessly.

That’s probably why it feels way stronger in areas it wasn’t even meant for than the specialized subs. (Stronger ist probably bad word choice, maybe “brings much quicker change”?) I am more productive on PEACE than on Executive.

E:E is excellent at taking single aspects, habits, attitudes (all products of our experiences) shifting, retraining them slowly into something closer to some kind of ideal goal state.

It feels like PEACE undercuts that. Again relaxation, absense of “fight or flight” and a positive kind of detachment/radical acceptance are key. But starting from there one can move pretty freely.

That begs the question: If you are no longer pinned down by all these vines growing out of the past, is there a straighter line to reach your goals? PEACE feels like the Stage 1 for pretty much every other sub.

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That’s it, you convinced me lol. I was torn between EE/ASBR/Peace as my next sub

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Agreed. Its frightening how effective PEACE is for productivity. Tldr, j spent 2 months without an ADHD prescription. PEACE provided the mental clarity, focus and ease i needed to get through the day until my next doctor’s appointment. Imagine a year on PEACE

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I now have to isolate myself from the forum to finish my current stack in peace (pun intended)

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The forums are a double edged sword. So hard to not compare results and stack break, but i get my best retrospective stuff when I’m writing to an audience.

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Aint that the truth. There is so much going on here, that previously i fell for stack breaking cause of fomo .

Peace and stabilizer has thoroughly conviced me to build a deep foundation.

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Submitted a support ticket for this as I haven’t heard from @SaintSovereign yet on it

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NOTE: The Q builder is down for needed maintenance until tomorrow night. All outstanding customs will be taken care of then.

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@SaintSovereign for someone who payed for Express delivery. Will we get back for the fee for it considering what you posted?

Of course.

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Perfect just wanted to confirm thank you! @SaintSovereign I made a support ticket a few minutes ago for it but I can close it out if the fee automatically comes back

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Yeah, you can close it out. The builder issues refunds automatically now upon building. :wink:

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@SaintSovereign any updates on when Q-builder will be back online tonight? I still haven’t received my name embedded custom so wondering when it will arrive.

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wow its AI enhanced ? good work :slight_smile:

Saint i am still cracking up over how customers were sending prompts via email to customer support thinking it was AI driven too funny :slight_smile:

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It just came back online, we’re running customs now.

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I got it! But the express delivery fee didn’t get refunded tho @SaintSovereign