Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

#6365

Maybe it’s PEACE, but I’ve been watching this whole sideshow with a mix of disinterested amusement and compassion. Your reply was kind of making me think of my own perspective which is in the same vein.

A while back, I was awaiting this one too and even asked questions of Saint on this thread about the density of the sub, thinking I might add it into my own stack just to have the benefit of the new ZPU scripting, even though I’m not a sales guy, thanks to some of the things that were said about ST1.

Now, with ZONE and PEACE, I feel like they’re helping to uncover blockages in the existing stack well enough. I think what people are impatient for isn’t so much the new features (although that’s important), but the new tech :slight_smile: although I’d be happy if someone proved me wrong too :wink:

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#6366

@SaintSovereign Are you all going to update the Subliminal Club Lab to include Genesis : Ascension and Emperor Reforged?

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#6367

I think Saint said that the new version is basically ready and is currently in-testing and would be released somewhere in August

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#6368

Dude. I’m not making anyone a victim. I’m pointing out a dynamic

Saint and fire love what they do, I agree

That doesn’t mean the community constantly asking “is it ready yet” isn’t adding unnecessary pressure

Those two things can be true at the same time

This is not someone who’s just vibing in flow state

This is someone who feels like he’s letting people down

And a big part of why he feels that way is because people keep asking.

This isn’t even aimed at you. It’s just getting disrespectful to the rest of the community who are being patient and letting them work.

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#6369

I mean. It’s possible.

But I think probably not.

He’s probably just saying sorry as a generous acknowledgment of people’s anticipation.

Saint and Fire are usually about 2 or 3 years ahead of whatever people on the forum happen to be talking about in any given moment.

There’s no ‘let down’ happening.

And I think they are very clear about that.

We’re seeing the simultaneous coming-to-fruition of at least 5 or 6 (maybe 9 to 10) different developmental lines at Subliminal Club that have been in the works for some time now. It’s happening so smoothly that sometimes no one even notices.

That’s why they’re working hard. It’s not to avoid ‘letting anyone down’ or due to forum pressure. It’s to continue bringing the technology, the business structure, the programs, the delivery system, the quality control, etc., to the next level that they’ve envisioned.

Each individual program is another brick in that road. They’re focused on the road while most conversations on here are focused on this or that brick. Or even just a corner of one brick. But it’s the road, the overall structural innovation, that’s is the focus of their main creative process.

That is what you need to watch.

(In my opinion.)

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#6370

Fair points on the bigger picture Malkuth. I don’t disagree with any of that

But my post wasn’t just about whether Saint and Fire are affected by it or not

It’s about the behaviour itself

Whether they shrug it off or whether it genuinely bothers them doesn’t change the fact that asking for release dates every other day is just rude to the rest of us. That’s the point.

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#6371

Saint might not mind as much. But for the sake of the rest of the forum, please reduce the constant asking. Once or twice a week is bearable. But everyday will end up being annoying to other members of the forum.

@Plutus - i totally understand your excitement. But lets tone it down a little.

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#6372

I’m also on PEACE actually, and I also feel a lot more detached in a way :slight_smile:

And not just that, but blockages in all areas of life. I found myself recently hesitating to ask the status on a title I was going to order in a custom. I noticed tension there and was unsure whether to post or not, but finally I did.

I examined the tension and why it was there, and I found it dating back to when I was a kid at school. I rarely asked questions to the teacher as it was often looked down on by the other students, which as an adult makes no sense at all as you’re supposed to learn and participate. If you didn’t understand something, the logic thing would be to raise your hand and ask for a clarification. Instead I just assumed I was bad at that subject (math especially.)

But then there was also a few students that we thought asked too many questions, like all the time. And these kids were constantly being ridiculed behind their back for actually doing the sensible thing of asking questions, not just sit there as a passive sponge.

So I then realized that when reading here on the forum all these questions on timelines, I was actually reliving some of the emotional responses I had as a kid when I regret not putting my hand up in class. PEACE helped my spot that link almost instantly.

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#6373

Moving forward, will do @Lion but I want to be completely honest I’m only doing it because I admit I’ve been really annoying to Saint and Fire themselves.

I’m deleting/going away from the forum forever by the end of the year once ASR comes out so I don’t care at all about the rest of forum which is the truth. The whole reason I’m going away forever is because of the members of the forum but as of now I will be off the forum unless I have a question about a release that came out.

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#6374

Dude you gotta find out yourself that asking for “is … will be relased today or tomorrow :eyes:?” over 40+ times is not desirable to any members that following this forum.

If everyone else making you realize that truth, maybe you shouldn’t be angry to anyone about making you look that way.

You do that intensely for the C & C and i even wonder if you even run that title?

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#6375

Don’t go away. We value your presence here. We all have our personal flaws but we still can grow togeher here and learn from each other

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#6376

I think if they were really frustrated about being asked when XYZ title is being released they would approach releases differently.

Obviously everyone has the titles they really enjoy, so when you announce that it’s being worked on, announce that it’s going to be released, etc people are naturally going to grow impatient and ask when it’s going to be released.

The solution to that is say “Hey we are aiming to release XYZ title by XYZ date, and if there are any delays, we will make a post” it’s really not that complicated, but by doing it the way they have been, they’re building engagement on the forum (not all of that engagement is good)

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#6377

Felt that on a spiritual level. I’ve frankly only become more active again because I am trying to keep tabs on True Sells update

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#6378

I am approaching the situtation more on a “forum member” angle.

It is not this simple when you working on multiple projects and go with your own flow & on top of that work for that update/release to be right/perfect.

Here is what it is: If you tie your personal … (financial situation, well-being, health etc) on an product update or release you are already making a mistake on anchoring you personal power on a different source than yourself.

You can just work with other … tiles until the next release. Do you claim to perfect and apply all the objectives they offer yet? than what will the next release do? Magically solve all your problems with one microloop?

Or will you pray for the next release immediately because the product did not do that for you…

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#6379

Oh yeah I absolutely agree that people past and present have heavily relied on a title fixing their situations without doing the foundational work. Always title jumping, always hoping the newest title will fix their miserable lives.

But there are many of us who run specific titles for long periods of time, putting in the work, and get excited for new internal growth due to updates.

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#6380

Yeah I think those running this title who are long time regulars or who are good at feeling out the effects of the sub (yourself included) are starting to get it what this ZPU is all about. Since I’m the one with the funny Saturn placement that sometimes gives me language superpowers, I’m gonna try to apply that to what we’ve both said.

You run a sub that has to do with obtaining a sense of deep inner peace, with a whole bunch of sub-objectives too. Something happens in your life that blocks the expression of the sub. With ZPU, particularly with those types Saint mentioned in the ZONE thread, there is this thing in many of the newer ZPU subs to “open the gateway between the conscious and subconscious mind”, especially in subs which need it for bringing inspiration or helping with genius/flow. That open channel conveys information back to you about what’s blocking the expression of the sub much easier, because you don’t have to consciously employ techniques as much to get a clear response back.

Now when its a sub that has a very widely applicable topic, such as achieving PEACE or getting in the ZONE these broader topic ZPU subs are going to help you resolve problems that are relevant to executing some of the other more narrowly focused subs better. The broader the topics the sub deals with the better.

I think this is why people have been seeing very deep results from subs like Reforged and the other two. Because asking yourself “what is it that stops me from feeling embodied/enthroned?” or “what is stopping me right now from feeling really deep peace?” or “what is stopping me from engaging deeply in the zone/flow state?” the subconscious is making clear what the major issues are that throw you off balance and keep you from achieving optimal functioning.

This seemingly more explicit ask / self check in and inner reflection we’ve seen with these latest subs, and the deeper connection with the subconscious especially through the nervous system scripting which is being perfected, is the real under-rated results enhancer :tophat: probably when EOG:TS gets release and the sales folk get exposure to that ZPU core they’ll start noticing this effect too. I count myself lucky to have ridden the bleeding edge of that wave with the Reforged test and later these two :slight_smile:

EDIT: Imagine what this is going to do for some of the other broad spectrum subs like the Revelation series, with topics like interconnectedness or gaining familiarity with the capacities of your own mind. That’s going to be some next level shit :smiley:

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#6381

I think they put up with it because they probably just look past it

But it’s annoying to see the same names every other day pop up asking for the same title release date after they have already said hey it’s gonna take longer or this is the release date area….
Like can we just learn to be patient

I’ve been waiting for RM and ASR since last year…. Do you see me asking every week hey is it gonna be released this week or is there any update …. And so on

I simply ask … hey is there a chance it could be released in whatever months …. Don’t need to be needy and annoying

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#6382

Hey, I don’t like to be called out like this. I only ask once a month on thunder mask and maybe if they are doing anything else than the stuff they tell us.

:frowning_face:

Summary

This is a joke.

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#6383

Guys let the topic be and move on

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#6384

It’s just FOMO.

The new tech may be great, but if you a search of results from 1 year ago, 2 years ago, 3 years ago, 5 years ago and even beyond that, you’ll see that people have had amazing results.

There is no reason why you can’t have great results with titles that are already available.

See this time as an opportunity to run a title that didn’t fit your stack. Or take some time for a healing title before your favorite title comes. Run an extra cycle of Regeneration or try out the new PEACE, Reforged or Zone.

Everything will be okay, don’t worry too much.

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