Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

Oh boy

did anyone notice the difference between the different builds in mains name embedded between zero point terminus and zero point quantum and if so what?

Also are there any similarities between Q and zpu? Just i saw said somewhere that Q gave external results first and that zp was more internal first and zpu is a combination of both correct me if im wrong

@SaintSovereign

Looking at the Genesis: Ascension or Summertime threads, we can see that ZPU Preview thus far is the fastest acting tech we’ve made, with initial results appearing minutes after running the loop. Please don’t overcomplicate this. It is the easiest tech to work with. Run your microloop, wait for the results, especially with something passive like Paragon. It is attempting to do deep work.

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I said it before but I’ll say it again, I feel like some people (like myself) overestimate how much they should expose themselves to the ZPU subs. Probably everyone who has problems with ZPU tech is listening too much, even if they are at 15-30s loops (at least that’s my theory)

I think I just landed on my sweet spot and it is… 5 seconds, 1 sub per listening day, potentially with added rest days inbetween too

I was feeling great initially at 15 second loops with ECC + RICH when it was clearing most obvious surface level issues, but I guess it started to work on deeper stuff and I started having very big productivity problems and reconciliation fog

@Judoka I highly recommend doing a washout and lowering the exposure time to ridiculously short loops, maybe you’ll benefit from it as well

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Thanks for the answers guys

I’m starting 15 for two weeks with stabilizer. Going very slow with this one

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Thats crazy,what title is it? C&C?

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Not all that crazy. I think Saint’s even done 5 seconds with some tracks.

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C&C + RICH stack

Keep in mind that I’m using these two titles since 1st of March, and I started at 15s but realized that it’s too much

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Yeah I think Saint did recommend someone on paragon thread to use 5s. That’s why I tried it first, otherwise I would’ve said fuck it and started building up from 1s lol

Because 7s loops were too much

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Just out of curiosity what is the marker for you that it’s too much?

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If I listen too much, I lose all my productivity and am unable to start tasks or focus on them for longer than a few minutes, feeling very lazy and uninterested

After 3+ days of washout, I become energetic and enthusiastic again, easily focusing, completing work, being excited, etc.

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Im just thinking what if future titles we have to listen like 1 second lol

khan black and emperor black are being unnerfed and updated to zpu

It’s most likely your stack. Are you running difficult titles? If that’s the case, there may be more hidden ingrained beliefs than anticipated.

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yes, ECC + RICH

I had similar issues when running GLM + EOG stack, though I could tolerate it more, at about 15-20 sec being my sweet spot

I agree, I’ve got a lot to work through, it’s just that I didn’t expect my sweet spot being so low lol

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When will khan black most likely be upgraded?

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Everyone wants to have everything upgraded and updated.
But no one wants to have their stacks disrupted and broken time and time again.

New release → stack broken.
Title upgrade → stack broken.
You read a crazy testimonial about a title you are currently not running → stack broken.
You see a hot girl and remember WANTED → stack broken.

I solve this problem by simply expanding my stack with more and more titles lmao :rofl:

Disclaimer: this comment is not serious stack advice

Maybe we need ā€œStack Stabilizer ZPā€? :grin:

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That’s literally a textbook example for FOMO (or shiny new sub syndrome)

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Maybe yall can go back and do those life chargers again now lol… those were amazing ideas and with the new tech things should make them better …

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