Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

[Andythegreat]

For someone working in sales could C&C replace True Sell ?

[Fractal_Explorer]

@SaintSovereign

Real talk, everyone – that’s one of the reasons we rushed Inner Circle: Brotherhood and C&C. This is not meant to be political, and I don’t want to see political debates, but look at the world right now. They’re out here snatching up presidents from other countries, man. He needed some real BROs. Regimes are falling, countries are being “bought,” financial markets are on the verge of collapse.

The whole thing feels like a rushed season of a really bad netflix series. Like it disturbs me, but it’s all absolutely absurd. I don’t know what to do with myself anymore tbh

[RagnarLothbrok]

But it’s a good Netflix series

[Iceman]

Time for Og Survival Instinct upgrade

[ksub]

@SaintSovereign

@ksub

Good thing that I’m doing washout right now. Basically I’ll have decide wether I’m running Emperor or C&C as my next sub.

What are your current goals with both?

@SaintSovereign : I’m finally a full-time entrepreneur or multipreneur, just not fully cashing in yet. I still occasionally entertain job offers, but only when they align with the overall direction of my entrepreneurial focus (which is mostly AI services). I’ve also gotten involved in a networking-based business selling financial services. These are the areas where I want to build my legacy.

I’m not a young buck out there. At this stage of my life, I’m thinking in terms of both money and legacy, not one without the other.

I recently came off Khan, stopping midway through Stage 4. I realized that the archetype no longer aligns with where I believe I’m headed. I also could not find the “search and destroy obstacles” energy that I love in Emperor, or the deep internal resolve that Emperor cultivates.

My original plan was to run Emperor and Nouveau RICH throughout 2026. However, as I’ve been reading more about C&C, I’m now wondering whether C&C and Nouveau RICH might be a better alignment instead.
Whichever stack I choose, I want to run it until the end of this year.

[SaintSovereign]

@ksub

However, as I’ve been reading more about C&C, I’m now wondering whether C&C and Nouveau RICH might be a better alignment instead.

Based off what you’ve posted, I’d definitely consider C&C + Nouveau RICH over OG Emperor. If you DO want to run a more traditional Emperor title, I’d consider EmD.

[SaintSovereign]

@Andythegreat

For someone working in sales could C&C replace True Sell ?

There are elements of C&C that those in sales are going to love. For example, there’s a specific feature dealing with negotiation that will work beautifully for salespeople. But once the new True Sell comes out, that will be the superior product, given that it’s an entire title just for sales.

[Judoka]

Also any news on genesis ascensions development? I wouldnt mind waiting longer for that and paragon to get that adapative scripting tech

[Floridianninja]

@SaintSovereign

@Fire is conducting his review of Emperor: Crown & Capital. It will most likely arrive tomorrow.

So is C &C coming out before RICH Trader to see if new scripting works well to add the finishing touches on that sub?

@Fire
Will scripting from Paragon be used in Spartan, LOTS, and Emperor Fitness when ever they are updated?
I am guessing that is part of the reason Paragon is coming out before any of them … there was also the Physical Shifting scripting in Wanted that you guys were probably seeing how people would react to, to see how you could change things in those 3 titles

[Judoka]

@Floridianninja

Spartan, LOTS, and Emperor Fitness

Man those are the top 3 titles i want updated LOL

[Phoenix]

If the wealth channel is legal, I will treat the topic objectively. If it is controversial, I will present the arguments surrounding that controversy, allowing others to form their own, or understand the public, perspective on the matter.

I previously operated a vape business but decided to stop after realizing its negative impact on young people. However, I later returned to the industry because of its profitability, while ensuring that I strictly followed regulations. At the same time, I focused on supporting individuals who had been affected by vaping products, aiming to promote responsible practices and provide help to those in need.

[SaintSovereign]

@Fire has co-signed on the script. We are proceeding to finishing the copy and are scheduled a release tomorrow.

[dreamingheroes]

Congrats! We see you all working so hard to get these products out for our benefit - after all these years I know I won’t take it for granted. Thanks for everything!

[Akin]

I have a feeling that CC is going to be no joke.

I also remember a nice a report from someone with HoM who started with digital businesses, made millions, and later began expanding into agriculture — which is a big game in our country — and kept going.

[Azriel]

@SaintSovereign

I understand, but I assure that there’s no reason for concern. Art and philosophy is encoded into Subliminal Club’s DNA. It is an intrinsic part of who we are, how we express and move through the world. it is literally what gives us vitality – we love creating boxes and copy.

I figured as much, elements of it are integral

@SaintSovereign

So, while we haven’t abandoned our philosophical tone, with a title that has features dealing with optimizing your taxes, finding legal tax havens and asset protection,

In the context of ultimately having faith for an incredible product and providing feedback- is just that the technical elements are in service of the larger picture of HOM or C&C now, the essence is a sub that can drive legacy level financial success, and that has to do with way more than technical elements. I never would have run HOM had it been laid out in terms of trust and leveraging tax laws.

The ‘philsophy’ to me is the essence of the sub-Khan is not about getting laid and being alpha- even if it helsp with that- Khan level dominance, strategy, and mastery over self and one’s enviroment, continual ascension and growth, sexual power etc. These are abstractions/concepts that become practical. I know the practical is always there, I just also personally really like the abstraction, it’s inspiring and cohesive.

House of Medici- even the title and concept turned me on to a world of understanding that I may never have discovered or ventured down. I understand the majority is served by simplicity and straightforwardness, and in service of impact, not money, that may be more necessary.

@SaintSovereign

I mean, let’s take you for example – you have openly stated that you’ve used these titles to great success and to great wealth.

Yes for sure and thank you - I wouldn’t say great wealth, but I have grown financially since my start at sub club immensely- starting with meaningful leaps on Emperor and starting 2.7 years ago had a quantum leap to incredibley high income through consistent work performance.

(edit: for the record I’m being discerning in how I categorize these terms based off language I’m learning, to be clear my financial gains and results with sub clubs sub have been profound for me and mind boggling for those around me.)

@SaintSovereign

So, there’s more of a technical tone so you can very easily see how Emperor: C&C can enrich your life.

That I can appreciate that. I just resonate with the larger than life potrayals and philosophical elements, and it makes me much more drawn to titles personally.

I’m sure however it turns out , if it at the least does what HOM does now with improved tech, and likely more, I’m sure it will be a great title.

The clarity in the technicalities will likely also be very supportive.

[Niles]

Stoked- seems like the perfectly aligned sales career sub right now. Having a lot of momentum with GLM, EOG 1, BRO however.

Would you reccomend long term EOG 1 inner work before transitioning to C&C? Seemed to be the strategy people like @Jouissance used in the past for best results, but curious if the new tech somewhat negates the need for deep healing.

Context: Plateaued sales rep making to look significant career leaps. (B2B/SaaS), more political hierarchy/promotion based then skill and performance based.

Long term: leverage high salary/commission position through progressing at current company to build start up Capitol and get into entrepreneurship. Financial discipline/basics are also things I need to continue to work on.

[Azriel]

If I am running HOM currently will it require a washout before transition to C&C?

[heartmadeiron]

How does that work for related or titles bulit on each other? Can you switch from inner circle to bro with a shorter wash out?

[oloy]

@SaintSovereign is c&c more focused on trading than building businesses?

@SaintSovereign

By this I mean, our sales experts who want to get into trading already have the funds to do so, and won’t have to go through a phase of wealth building

And

@oloy

@SaintSovereign does c&c help wid picking the business (or help wid picking a wealth generation vehicle) or do we have to pick the business and c&c makes it a success (ofc wid our own actions)?
Asking this for a quick confirmation. Thanks.

[HeroicDragon]

Will this have everything Emperor has and more or will Emperor still be a recommended title with it?