Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

#202

I can’t think of a single program that I’ve gotten tired of or ‘maxed out on’ since I’ve been here.

In my personal experience, every update has been a case of moving from ‘Good’ to ‘Even Better’.

With Revelation of Spirit and Revelation of Mind, I worked with them for over a year, had an excellent experience, but still barely scratched the surface. And now, I’m going to get even further enhanced versions in this season. Amazing.

The limiting factor in subs work is Me: my own needs, characteristics, rhythms and styles of growth; my evolving understandings and strategies. Those are the parts I’m most engaged with and most excited about working with. The subs are excellent resources that aid me in this work.

If Sub Club releases a Mathematical Skill subliminal program with their most advanced technology and build approaches; and my current maths level is Grade 2…

After I play that program, I’m going to have explosive improvement in my math skill and knowledge, but…

I’m still going to need to study math, and to do the work to get from Grade 2 math concepts up to secondary school, and then university level math knowledge.

I’ll still need to choose my learning materials and study approaches, etc., And I’ll need to take the time to work and improve my level (if that’s what matters to me).

No matter how many amazing improvements are made to the technology, I will still need to actually study. And it’s still going go take time to go from level 2 to level 10 or beyond. It’ll probably be a much faster process; but that process still needs to happen.

And that’s a good thing.

I don’t want a program that actually lives my life for me; or instead of me. I just want tools that help me to enjoy and optimize the process of working, living, and growing.

Choice = Work and Work = Choice.

You demonstrate your choices through the work you do.

Run Legacy of the Spartan and then go to do bench presses. It will be your pectoral muscles that grow the most. Because that’s what bench presses build the most. The work you did expressed your choice. Legacy of the Spartan then empowered that choice

Subliminals are like an extra guarantee that whatever you work on will make strong progress.

So:

It makes sense to get just as excited, engaged, and passionate about the Work as you get about the subliminals that support that work.

Choosing the right Work, the right Directions, is just as important as choosing the right Subliminal.

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#203

New Alchemist with anti-recon and the energy scripting enhancements from New Æon and the things that will likely be included in Khan Black.

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#204

I’m very curious what sort of upgrade Khan Black can receive, it feels already so powerful and effective as it is, I’ve seen many users say that it’s too intense for them.

I’m a very experienced user of KB stage 1, I can see that it could use a little smoothing out with the new relaxation scripting maybe but honestly it’s already so effective at stimulating and clearing channels.

I’m curious to hear if there’s any details you could share about what direction this update is going?

@AnswerGroup

#205

Many things like anti-recon scripting which it does not have, and the innovations included in the Æon like avoiding unnatural dissipation of our sexual energy that can come from uncontrolled sexual cravings, imagery and thoughts maybe. Just summing up some ideas but I think a lot can be improved.

I would personally like to see a feature that can help to take it into a different direction for those who want to use it (whether temporarily or not) for celibacy. Just as a spiritual engine. Transforming the sexual energy completely. I think because it generated a sexual aura directly this was causing issues for me as I was becoming very sexual instead of feeling like it was being transformed and transmuted, it was doing this to an extend but I was attracting sexuality in my life in various ways and if I am trying to be celibate I have to avoid sexual thoughts and desires or it will no longer be celibacy but suppression.

Celibacy is easy once you can be active in some project and not feel nor think of anything sexually, your sexual energy will naturally be used for being more physically and mentally active.

I did notice that control aspect that I was able to choose when to arouse my sexual energy but still I found myself hovering towards sexually quite often whether for healing or something else. So I would liked to have avoided that but I found it nearly impossible.

#206

Without going too long and deep on this, there is a big misunderstanding around celibacy, I was in a serious spiritual community under the guidance of a master for 10 years and celibacy was part of it and I can tell you clearly many years later, now that I’ve outgrown these teachings that practicing celibacy is a very unhealthy distorted way to spiritual awakening.

To simplify it all in one sentence:

Just as you can’t be hungry if your stomach is full of food, no matter how much you convince yourself and try to stash more food in there, you can’t be celibate and avoid these thoughts if you are still full of sexual urges in your unconscious self.

Celibacy is an unnatural endeavor, true celibacy comes when you are free from sexual urges, and when you are truly free from sexual urges, it doesn’t matter whether you are celibate or not because you are free, free from the negative attachements that made you want to be celibate in the first place.

So practicing celibacy already means you are suppressing yourself. As you are using words like ‘avoid’. There is no need to focus on a project to not have sexual thoughts, if you have cleared and transmuted these things, you could sit all day do nothing and the energy would naturally flow and never pool within the sexual areas.

All this to say that I believe the subliminal program only brings up what’s already in you and there is no other way for transmuting than to face these thoughts and feelings and let them go.

I experienced similar two years ago when I started with KB stage 1 but nowadays when I use it, it’s immediate clarity and energy flow through whole body, nothing sexual about it.

Apologies this ends up being a long post in the end.

Does that make sense to you?

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#207

I stacked at some point Sex Mastery X with the Earth stage of Hero: The Light That Blinds and found the effect amazing, from the quality of touch to ejaculation control. I think there are a lot of lessons from titles that are not necessarily sexual that might help a lot with the skill side.

I previously thought the problem with Sex Mastery X was that the newer skill programs are all based on learning by doing, while Sex Mastery X was designed to work even during dry spells and for virgins.

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#208

Good catch, that’s all I’ll say. :wink:

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#209

No worries and yes it makes total sense for me celibacy comes naturally for me in certain environments and certain times in my life. I don’t feel an absolute need for renouncing sex in my life but at certain points for me it has felt absolutely natural, effortless, second nature, especially when in certain environments.

I will make it simple for you, energy runs through your spine, for most people all they care about it food, money and sex because they are stuck in the lower two chakras. Once this energy has the possibility to rise higher your urges will naturally come down. This is also a very natural process of life as you grow older, at a certain age your need for sex will come down a lot. Through a spiritual process this can be completely eradicated. To be honest I am not searching for this or attempting this intentionally it just seems to happen within me at some stages of my journey.

This is why I said if you are thinking sexual thoughts, having sexual inclinations and in such a state attempting to practice celibacy it just becomes repression and causes harm.

It becomes more difficult in party environments and any kind of places which are highly sexual it could lead to enticing whatever unconscious things are still there. If you constantly create a sexual aura I think it will also become difficult to not focus on sexual things at least thats how I perceived it.

This is interesting, that is what I am looking for!

#210

This post has some good points,

I’d like to offer my own perspective which shares some commonality but comes from a different lived experience.

It’s worth contemplating Wilhelm Reich’s formula: tension-charge-discharge-relaxation.

As a matter of fact we have a very similar mechanism of energy exchange with the environment that we do every day: our breathing.

I wouldn’t say that celibacy is “unnatural” or that practicing celibacy means suppressing yourself. But in the ordinary person, it can give the illusion of being unnatural. The key thing to remember is that practices which rely on celibacy are usually those which seek to resolve the false duality between Creator and creation. These systems explicitly tell a person: do not pay attention to the things of this world.

If you are a worldly individual, you are working mainly with the lower three circuits These have to do with sexuality, dominance, survival etc. When you get to the heart, it becomes about love and your connection with the “not-you”. The cardiac plexus is heart and lungs working together. The heart takes the oxygenated blood and sends it through the circulatory system to every part of the body. It doesn’t stay in the heart or we would be dead. Life is movement and circulation.

If there is a sexual urge which cannot be controlled, this usually means there is something wrong with the energy body or the circulation of energy, ie, not exchanging with the environment. To return to Reich, what stops the energy from going through its proper cycle is the muscular armoring. This armoring is a psycho-physiological contraction and in some respects its root is the fear of death, manifesting as the desire to hang on to the energy, in an acquisitive way. This armoring is the physical manifestation of the attempts of the non-physical being, no longer aware of its own immortality, struggling to maintain its own identity, its own objectivity separate from others.

The good news is that this means the problem can and should be attacked from many different angles. You can work with the heart and lungs, regulating your breathing and getting ever more subtle there. You can work with releasing the muscular armoring that is causing the aberrant sexual behavior. You can cultivate love for God and for other people, or attack what prevents this state by examination of the psyche. And so on.

But in order to use that sexual energy towards transformation, first of all you need to get rid of the problems that are blocking it up. That’s part of why breath regulation is so freaking important in meditation, because most of us are energetically f’ed up in some way. In fact the psychological states favored by our current society are geared towards creating an unnatural control of the energy that favors the perpetuation of certain psychological states beneficial to the ruling class. Rather than being “unnatural”, once the system is returned to greater wholeness, celibacy or simply healthy use of this energy can resume. It’s our ordinary state of muscular and psychic tension which is unnatural.

It might be useful to point out that without getting rid of muscular armoring and its root complexes, opening the heart and experiencing real internal bliss is, if not impossible, then certainly very difficult.

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#211

Can you give an example. Like inhale hold exhale for certain amount of seconds?

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#212

Wilhelm reich has super interesting information on the correlation between sexual energy, orgone and mental health. I am glad you brought him up because just the other day I was thinking of how much his material resonates with aspects of the Khan Black program.

Sexual energy is an incredible power; male and female being polar magnets the circulation of this energy between them can destroy or create health. The abuse of sexual energy can truly create catastrophic consequences while right use can completely rejuvenate and rebuild the organism. I have always seen how loving couples start to grow healthy both physically and mentally very quickly while unhealthy couples it had just the opposite effect. Besides other factors the exchange during sex in the absence of positive, good feeling and love has disastrous effects on both.

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#213

Definitely the title im most excited for and what I’ve seen make the biggest impact financially.

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#214

Those types of rhythms are only really useful if you’re trying to accomplish specific goals.

What I was referring to with breath regulation in meditation has to do with my experience of and reading widely about specifically the different descriptions of sitting meditations in different Taoist traditions, including the Longmen school. I’m by no means an expert, but in many variants of the texts, the idea is put forward of “regulating until regulation is no longer necessary”. Think of how breathing regulation affects the vagus nerve for example, and by doing so the switching between the two nervous systems. Once you have homeostasis in the system, the energy efficiency can go up and less regulation is required to maintain it.

This is the perspective I have so far from my limited study and practice. YMMV :slight_smile:

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#215

Gentlemen, while these posts are interesting, this is not quite the thread for it.

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#216

Does ASBR and Khan have it?

What about like a theraputive MDMA state of unconditional love to work through issues, that would be awesome

Crown and Capital is a great title IMO. (Although I will be slightly sad to see the nostalgia of the House of Medici gone)

Are there any plans to upgrade True Sell?

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#217

Everytime i see saint or fire typing i get a dopamine spike thinking they’re about to announce something lol

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#218

Yes there is.

It wasn’t added in the morning tho sadly @SaintSovereign :cry:

#219

We have stark coming out wich im sure is also gonna be great for sales anyway,didnt you have a great experience with stark?

Dont let perfect be the enemy of good

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#220

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#221

This season will be so mind-blowing I can literally feel my mind thinking beyond the box already. I just feel so much excited for this season. Probably because I love “wonder” and wondering what is beyond the human box of limitations we know to be true and believe, going beyond all the limitations and restrictions put upon us. What is truly possible?

The craziest interview also just gone online on joe rogan a day ago. Go check it out if you know what I’m talking about. Really puts things in perspective.

Actually I’ll just share it here (if allowed) because this is quite possibly the singlemost fascinating and intriguing conversation I have probably heard for a few years. It ignited something in me. But also definitely not for the closed minded.

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