Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

Yes, for entrepreneurs, business owners, services professions its very valuable but
but for employees where the company manages this, will this scripting still be useful?

Will it still effect lead flow, quality, generation, through less direct means?

I’ve said that one key to effective sales in my sub journey has been wealth subs contributing to altering lead flow and quality, even beyond my direct control or actions.

Conversation, of course is key regardless

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RM:UA is gonna be a four stager?
That’s exciting!

I wonder how you guys will divide the stages.

Also, do you think RM:UWX will get more stages too since the other RM sub-titles are being made into that direction?

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As an entrepreneur / coach / bootstrapped business with a truck load of knowledge, I have come to realise that the only bottleneck for me is “Leads”.

I understand how to convert. I know how to persuade on a deep subconscious level. Have even held attention (glued) for 12 hours in one go.

The only thing I keep scratching my head over is - “Where do I find more of these people? In a way that is cost effective - organically - yet extremely high quality? I have truly life-changing lead magnets at disposal, but how do I get them infront of the right people?”

So, lead generation is a must for me, and I began to feel the importance of this right now, especially when my brand and positioning is exceptional. Visibility matters.

That’s why I look heavily into Stark & ASBR, for that visibility aspect, hoping to pull new people into the funnel. Ultimately leads is my problem currently. When I realized this, I naturally want to generate high quality leads.

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Ok, C&C is also great for this. Lead generation is an invaluable part of sales, I get it and agree. I’m clarifying how this effect or sub is structured for employees maximizing inbound opportunities when there not, nor should they be, involved in the levers of generating leads.

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Neat. 2027 stack coming together nicely.

While the scripting related to lead generation and closing deals is present in every stage, there is an entire stage dedicated to this. The first stage is the traditional True Sell experience. The other two remaining stages are dedicated to the types of things you’re mentioning.

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Yes, but I am not sure what the divisions will be yet. But yes, it will follow the new four stage format. Non-sequential.

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Possibly. Maybe Index Gate as well, with a stage dedicated to AI. Controversial to some, but useful nonetheless for those who want to use it.

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Absolutely in my opinion but in a different industry. In B2B, most Account Executives/reps have prospecting responsibilities. Don’t see a ton of fully inbound positions in B2B

I do think that this mainly applies to the high ticket coaching/consulting industry specifically-

I think what you’re looking for or hoping for @Azriel - and I 100% agree and want the same - is one of the stages to be exclusive to social skills and the actual selling-on-call-social-relational process

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Whats monarch sub?

An upcoming title for women.

Yes, with wealth manifesating or scripting would be totally fine by me

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Emperor for women.

Absolutely. I’m curious how the 4-stage model pans out; it can go very wide and deep.

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@SaintSovereign just so I’m understanding correctly is ST1 the full title and then the other three stages are mini parts of the full title of ST1 (like you we’re planning to do for C&C in the future) or are they expansions of the full title that is not in ST1?

One thing we have to consider is that EoG: True Sell will be for all sales. Lead Generation is part of sales if we’re talking about turning a cold/warm/hot lead into a client. I see what you mean in the high ticket space where all the leads are already there and you just need to close them but I think lead generation is 100% needed for those of us who have a business but focus on the sales part of it. Now if the leads magically generate/manifest then that’s perfect.

@Metamorphosis best described one of the biggest struggles of handling a business but one that if your already good at closing and just need the volume to scale then you’d succeed.

And I’ve experienced this first hand as someone where once we found those leads and the lead generation manifestation whatever you want to call it started happening. The deals we’re flowing effortlessly.

Lead Generation + Lead Flow + Lead Quality manifestations for both high ticket and B2B is amazing to have. I remember I mentioned to @SaintSovereign back in the day if EoG: True Sell can have the best manifestation for having a huge volume of leads that always has me busy with back to backs and their high quality/want what I’m selling + lead flow for the business and the B2B side of things and all I need to do is close/go on a call with them to succeed then that would be a dream come true. Sounds like EoG: True Sell will be that so I’m excited.

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I did order a custom a on the weekend, and i received it way quicker than expected :smirk:

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Right? Talk about customer service.

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