Main Disc. Thread - Quintessence: Zero Point (Experimental) (Part 1)

[Sebastian_Po]

@SaintSovereign

that experience were a deeply intimate, spiritual journey with the ability to potentially change everything about who you are.

it is frightened ，at the same time excited … I guess …I am a masochist…I love those painful experiences…

[Hoppa]

@GoldenTiger

If you feel like you have become, why do it? Why act on it?

If you have become a rich person inside you will take necessary action to turn it into reality.

If Musk lost everything (not his mind, or freedom) my guess is that within a year he would be well on his way to be a millionaire. Within a decade he would be hustling his way to his first billion.

Because it is in his nature to take that action.

[Pyro]

@Hoppa

If Musk lost everything (not his mind, or freedom) my guess is that within a year he would be well on his way to be a millionaire. Within a decade he would be hustling his way to his first billion.

Because it is in his nature to take that

This is why I have been obsessed with changing my mind since high-school.

[AlexanderGraves]

I mean look at Trump.

Lost a ton of his fortune multiple times or all of it.
Made it all back.

Guy cant help but make money because it is deeply ingrained in his subconscious to be a billionaire/wealthy person.

[Malkuth]

here we go

[gdbdboy]

Saint Sovereign's Journal (Until the End of Time Ultima + Solace [B])

I’m sipping on some wine and reading up on Wargroove strategies (gotta practice so @Fire stops stomping the hell out of me and my girlfriend in it), so you’ll have to excuse me if this isn’t as coherent as usual, haha. Let’s say that you have a huge freshwater pond in your backyard and you’d love to use that water inside your home. How would you accomplish that? You’d build a piping system, right? Pathways of manifestation works the same way. You can’t just run the subliminal and expect unbeli…

With ZP , can it be assumed that , the new technology is enhancing the ‘passive manifestation’ ?

[PhasingPhoenix]

Limitless mogul QZP

[Floridianninja]

@SaintSovereign

Is there a way that the subs can help someone build a desire to change their life or hit their goals etc?

I feel like that is most peoples problem to change or get things done is their lack of desire to do thing, they may want to do this or that but that spark to do said thing may not be there

[Pooter]

@Floridianninja

I feel like that is most peoples problem to change or get things done is their lack of desire to do thing, they may want to do this or that but that spark to do said thing may not be there

100% true.

[remarkable]

@Floridianninja

I feel like that is most peoples problem to change or get things done is their lack of desire to do thing, they may want to do this or that but that spark to do said thing may not be there

I find this to be very insightful.

Which is why I think this…

@Floridianninja

Is there a way that the subs can help someone build a desire to change their life or hit their goals etc?

…would not work because the initial desire to effect change would be missing.

[Invictus]

@Floridianninja

Is there a way that the subs can help someone build a desire to change their life or hit their goals etc?

I don’t think you can do this, because think about it, no matter how much you try, you can’t really have a desire to do something if you don’t really like it, you can get skilled at it of course, but you won’t get that desire if you don’t like it or have any motivation for it.

For example; I love bodybuilding and have a desire to get bigger and better. My brother doesn’t and I have wasted money getting him gym memberships, but he doesn’t go because he doesn’t like it.

The moral is; no matter what food you give to someone, if they’re not hungry, they won’t have the desire to eat.

[BLACKICE]

Saint has mentioned several times that subs can not and do not make you do something you don’t want to do, nor do they push opinions or conflicting beliefs into your mind. This is important because if a person says they want to lose weight but they just won’t give up junk food, soda, etc… then no sub on Earth will truly help them as the core desire isn’t really there.

If a person has a burning desire to get from NYC to LA, they will find a way no matter what. Hitchhike, bike, walk, crawl if they have to… If it’s that important, they will find a way. Having a vehicle absolutely helps make it much easier… but if they have no desire to actually make the trip, then the vehicle won’t be much use, as there will still be an excuse to not make the trip. It’s too far, gas costs too much, it’ll take too long… etc.

I say I’ve got a desire to lose those last 20lbs and get back to the shape I had in college, but my actions suggest otherwise… in the past 2 weeks I’ve made (keto, sugar-free) desserts twice and ended up eating most of it as my wife just hasn’t got a sweet tooth. If I were really serious about it, then I would have skipped the dessert rather than making one that was simply “less bad”.
I could get a fat loss custom in ultra super duper ZP Terminus Ultima Double Platinum Cubed strength, but if I don’t have the burning desire to achieve the result no matter what, then… will it be effective? And if not, where does the blame lie? Not with SC, that’s for sure.

[Trader]

The only person hi can lead a horse to water AND make it drink is Chuck Norris

[SubliminalUser]

They commented on an extreme version of this before. They stated that it’s possible to build subs which force one to act, but it would cause too much reconciliation AND get rid of stackability.

[SaintSovereign]

@zero point

Connection with her was so soulful .

I mean sex had a different meaning today, something inside was getting fulfilled.
I was feeling whole, full, complete .
As if that few seconds of bliss was there for so so long.
It was like prayer, it was like nature at its blossom, it was like spring.

It was so serene yet so high, it was so blissful yet so wild.

I hope that you’re the one
If not, you are the prototype
We’ll tiptoe to the sun
And do things I know you like

[Floridianninja]

@Invictus

I don’t think you can do this, because think about it, no matter how much you try, you can’t really have a desire to do something if you don’t really like it, you can get skilled at it of course, but you won’t get that desire if you don’t like it or have any motivation for it.

Heres the thing you can like something but have no desire to do it but you should be able to build or create that desire.
Think about it like this. You are depressed you want to change and make your life better but that push inside you that spark for life and success just isn’t there… So how can you get that spark to reignite.
I think that is what is missing in most people to get their goals and dreams to happen and such.

Like for me personally i love writing and want to become a best selling author eventually but that spark to write has faded in me … so how can i re ignite that flame that was once a raging fire

I am not asking for a sub that forces action. I would never want to force that on anyone but what i am asking is if there is a way or module that can HELP reignite that flame or spark in someone to get the ball moving again

@RVconsultant @SaintSovereign
Sorry i turned this thread into something else

[SubliminalUser]

@Floridianninja

I am not asking for a sub that forces action. I would never want to force that on anyone but what i am asking is if there is a way or module that can HELP reignite that flame or spark in someone to get the ball moving again

This much is definitely possible. There’s already modules like Carpe Diem Ascended for this. I am surprised SC has not put more of this kind of stuff in subs and tech.

[SaintSovereign]

It removes the ability for you to stack. We’ve talked about this before. Another producer took this approach and had the same outcome. Not dissing that approach, but that’s not how we wanted to handle it.

[Invictus]

So basically something to give you that initial push

Wouldn’t Executive do that ?

[Malkuth]

@Floridianninja

I am not asking for a sub that forces action. I would never want to force that on anyone but what i am asking is if there is a way or module that can HELP reignite that flame or spark in someone to get the ball moving again

@RVconsultant @SaintSovereign
Sorry i turned this thread into something else

As usual, I feel that there may be a very real connection between this topic you’ve brought up and the concept of ‘Zero Point’ that Saint described earlier in this thread.

Here’s my personal take.

Human beings have natural characteristics. A person has a nature. For lack of a better word, we have ‘souls’.

But I don’t mean the cartoon ghost that floats up when someone dies. I mean our core programming. Our nature.

To the extent that a person is fortunate enough to align with that nature; motivation, creativity, effectiveness, and wellbeing will have a smooth channel to arise.

But one of the down sides of (beautiful) free will is that we are quite free to see ourselves in ways that do not align very well with who we are. You are free to say that your liver is your brain and your brain is your butt cheek. We’re free to be wrong.

And even after you have made the decision to try to be super-aligned with your nature, it can take a very, very long time to become intimately familiar with it.

I definitely don’t mean to over-simplify this.

But I do think that this is an important piece of the puzzle.