This has been a very enlightening object-lesson about the sheer and intense futility of my original post.
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Haha! Will put down the futility to Forum Reconciliation and the good humor to Forum Washout Bloom.
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That’s so funny, because, honestly, how much easier can it get to completely revamp your entire being?
You listen to a damn 15 min MP3 file every other day.
Just compare it with people of the past who had to WALK 10 days in the icecold to fight to death for their people. These days, you listen to a file while in your underpants and a better life comes in just like that.
(I’M exaggerating, you still need to take action, but you get the picture)
The exact opposite.
Well, it took a few days (probably recon) but now I am more on the spiritual path than I was before. However, it is a more grounded perspective where I don’t “deny” sex and money. I integrate the astral with the physical much better.
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For me, it’s a switch from seeing the spiritual as something special to seeing everything as spiritual. The mundane is spiritual now and the spiritual mundane.
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Yes. However, I feel that I derive a spiritual experience from my everyday living and from the challenges I go through. In addition, I think that in the past I may have relied on esoteric matters as a way to progress in life. Obviously, ZP subs are a much more effective solution than that.
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That’s a great way of looking at it. I like it. Also makes a lot of sense that EVERYTHING is spiritual, because why wouldnt it be?
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@SaintSovereign should people on the hardgainer protocol (1 loop DiamondZP once a day for me) also do the 5 day washout after 21 days? Or keep at it until I react to the sub?
Started the protocol 4 days ago but was on DiamondZP 2 loops every other day before that since a few days after the public test came out…
I’m feeling the shift that MOGUL ZP is bringing about and Dragon Reborn Qv2 is bringing about.
One of the gifts of Dragon Reborn is mental flexibility, the capacity to adapt and update your categories. It gradually becomes easier to recognize changes and results.
I seem to be in the midst of that right now.
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No it has worsened (if that’s even english)
Seeing how good zp are doing just for me on my day to day life
Like I crave my Astral projection ZP
LIBER ASTRALIS ! 
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Just wanted to forward this to our great leaders 
All the thanks goes to @SaintSovereign and @Fire for creating these lifechanging audiofiles!
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@SaintSovereign would emperor ZP (when its released) synergise well with my emperor QV2 custom ? would it enhance the results.
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The hardgainer protocol specifically asks for you to use multiple ZP titles.
Repeating the same one is not recommended.
Didn’t the instructions say that don’t mix the same sub in ZP and Qv2?
For example: do not mix Emp Qv2 with Emp ZP.
Might depend on what else you have in your custom…
Letme rephrase my question would running emperor ZP one day and running my emperor custom another day would it speed up the processing of my custom since both products have the emperor core ( well when the ZP version is released).
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I thought it meant that do not have them in same stack/ rotation.
I hope it doesn’t mean that, as I also have my Emperor custom I want to run at some point.
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You can use the one that is in your custom as long as it’s on a different day.
You just shouldn’t run ZP Emperor and Q Emperor even on different days.
But you can run the Emperor core in your custom.
ZP will enhance it apparently.
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Thanks Brandon
Here’s to a great first cycle of ZP! I’m looking forward to rotating my stack 
Thanks, I seem to have missed that it’s only for hard gainers using multiple titles. I think I saw Saint’s post about a potential solution for hard gainers and was so anxious to try some variation to get some effect that I might have skipped that part. I remember reading the second part about the use of multiple titles concurrently to help with the resistance but remember thinking this is not relevant to me since I only have 1 sub in my stack at the moment…
@SaintSovereign, is there a protocol for hard gainers who are currently on 1 title only?
Seems to be that using an additional sub in ZP (I have Spartan) when I am not interested in its effects could potentially cause more resistance not less… But I could try it.
Anyway, question currently is more about the need/help of a 5 day washout when I currently don’t get anything from the subs (no recon, no dreams, no sub-related effects etc.)?
@Kalimero Are you sure that you’ve listened long enough to establish that you’re truly having 0 response to the subliminals?
Particularly since you’re using Spartan, you have a very objective and controllable standard for evaluating whether you’re getting results or not. You can literally compare your strength, power, and physical gains before and after introducing the subliminal.
If you see any improvements even if you didn’t feel anything in particular, you do not need to use this special protocol. People feel different things with subliminals, and some people don’t feel much of anything at all.
Some people can get very quiet and feel their heartbeats. Other people don’t notice anything at all even when they get calm. But everyone alive has a functioning heart. And the ability to feel/hear your heartbeat does not mean that you have an objectively stronger or healthier heart.
I suspect that subliminals may be similar.
Anyway, I’m not sure if you know all of this already, so I want to make sure to type it out.
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