Main Disc. Thread - Quintessence: Zero Point (Experimental) (Part 1)

Freaking knew this would be what zero point meant. It just makes so much sense… But that you are actually using this in subliminals is nothing short but amazing.

I have gotten into this zero point thing in deep deep meditations. But to then reprogram your entire reality from that point. Just WOW.

Can’t wait until we can use zp for customs.

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I understand why he is hesitant too. But i feel like this would rewire people and help them do exactly it is what they want or “need”. I mean from the results so far people seem to be have life changing experiences in a short matter of time.
I can only imagine how a Stark, Emperor, Khan, or RM title would change someone from the inside out if it was rewritten from scratch in ZP build with some extra things in there like they added to Wanted.

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I look forward to the tester thread becoming public so that we can see all of the reports.

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I remember Wanted being energy intensive in it’s Qv2 format. From what I’m reading, there doesn’t seem to be much (any?) mention of fatigue or tiredness. I wonder if it’s due to it having far less recon. Maybe this might lead to greater enhancement in physical shifting/healing technology in products like Emperor Fitness and Paragon.

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I have the same feeling here. Results starts from oneself. If you see yourself as “the person who gets results” (person who gets the girl, person who works hard, person who is socially confident, etc.). Results will eventually follow naturally.

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I wonder how much better titles like Spartan, Emperor Fitness, Paragon, Emperor would work with ZP build dealing with physical change… I only add Emperor in there bc at one point it did have fat burning capabilities. But Spartan and Emperor Fitness would probably greatly benefit from ZP especially with the way they are rewriting the scripts from scratch and adding in other cool stuff.

Just imagine a custom with Emperor fitness stage 3, Spartan, and Wanted the physical change without naming any modules would be awesome plus the results in general would be life changing.

ZP could be the build they need to make the Hero title a reality plus the profound changes and results people are already seeing from just wanted.

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What is that saying first change your inner world and your out world will change as a result of your beliefs and something of the programming of the subconscious mind… I might have added some things to that lol.

But change always comes from with in first and is then reflected to the outside.

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IMO this makes ZP the most important resource for people like me, who cares first for inner change and self development and sees outside change as a natural consecuence of inner growth.

If you are unsure to release it as the main production build, please consider to give us ZP as a build choice.

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Second this

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ZP is bringing you into alignment with what you want. That ZP MK? Is what I want

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We must understand that there actually is no genuine “outer” or “inner”–we simply experience our state of mind. Now, the illusion of time is just the result of our overall state of dual consciousness, i.e. all the things we implicitly accept as true, which means that moving from one experience to another is always subject to our state of mind. In other words, we may try to “believe”, “accept”, “allow”, “align”, “manifest” etc., but in every instance we are almost always implicitly holding in our awareness the state of mind from which we are trying to manifest the new state of mind and this causes the illusion of time because the desired state will emerge into our experience only in harmony with our ideas of what is effortlessly true. If one were to accept the desire as truly as one accepts the sensory evidence that is immediately in our focus, we would in that very instant experience the desire not as a desire but as a “evidence”.

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i think the answer would be an alignmemt WITH the thing that you want.

we dont attract what we want, we attract what we are, for example a great dancer does’nt want to dance, he IS a dancer, he just dance. he mabye WANT to dance in a specific show but he is already sees himself as a dancer and dont even think about it or questions it.

so if you’re asking “how long does it take to…” it means you didnt do the alingment work yet to get there. think about the dancer - he would’nt ask how long does it take for me to be a dancer - he already is!! no matter were he perform. he IS a dancer and he knows it.

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I have an anecdote regarding this “identity” : My brother is natural with woman. He is the guy who enters a party or a group of people and woman will try and seduce him. He never ran subs, his identity is that of a Wanted man because he learned it when he was a teenager.

Of course, he is acting a certain way that makes him attractive (I guess), but sometime he makes mistakes, say some things and because he got the attitude… For example, he told his friend’s gf that he wanted to meet a girl with no gag reflex… Guess what? One of the friend of that girl has no gag reflex, and he went on a date with her… Haven’t heard the end of that story hahaha but I guess it ends well!

Anyway, his identity is what gives him the confidence to ask… To go see a girl and ask her “sooo, when are we going to have sex?”, sure, not every girl are head over heels for him, but he can very often get the girl he want

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Thought precedes everything.

Think and Grow Rich :wink:

If you want to be rich, you need to THINK rich first.

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Yeah, only thing we need to remember with the identity, you still need to do some things. I can have the identity of a guy who gets laid, but if I don’t act and do something about it (like my brother), I won’t get laid.

Same for money, you can think yourself rich, but your behaviors needs to follow.

Lots of people tends to get trapped in the loop of “inner game”, oh, my inner game needs to be better, I’ll wait a few weeks to go out. Oh, my mindsets regarding money is not perfect, I am still having some insecurity about the fact that I might not get rich… It’s normal. You haven’t slept as week last night, your mindset won’t be as good. It’s part of life.

So yeah ZP is AMAZING in the sense that it can deeply affect your identity, but people can’t just jump on ZP and expect to have girls jumping on their dick when they are laying in bed and not meeting anyone… And that’s a trap that is easy to fall in!

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Yes. One of the mistakes we made was including too many testers who are in relationships. WANTED isn’t the best title for them because most attached men running it don’t want to cheat — they just want more acknowledgment, status and the physical changes. I can confirm that the physical changes are occurring faster, and the internal status jump was incredibly fast.

But to get the acknowledgment, you need to go around people other than your partner and give them a signal, even subconsciously, that you’re open to being pursued.

I don’t see that happening that much. But, that’s not to say that the test is going bad or doesn’t give good data. This test allowed us to see just how potent ZP’s reality bending is, especially with internal results (which are just as important, if not as important than external).

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Maybe you should add that to the application next time lol.

Good thing i am single lol. I wouldn’t think of running something like that if i was taken, wouldn’t want to make anyone jealous or step on any toes.

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Being a traditional sub hopper, You have no idea how difficult it was for me to not apply for this

I second that too, this is in my opinion a very good idea if you do not want to go with ZP to the public and this option will be only for experienced users.

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Yeah, having the option would be great.

I’m just seeing those people who have their identity change really fast and I am curious to know “ok, how does it feel?”. I’ve evolved a lot with subclub, but I sometime still get these insecurity regarding relationship with woman where I am just asking myself too much questions!

There are some identity shift that I haven’t made even if I have tons of proof that shows me how attractive I am. I often have to calm down my insecurity and seeing people’s reaction and deep identity change with ZP is really something I would wish to try.

I’m sure lots of people have these types of reaction, while the transition is still work in progress, accepting a new reality and identity to replace something that has been part of your life for a long time is hard.

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