Main Disc. Thread - Quintessence: Zero Point (Experimental) (Part 1)

Seems you know us well! :blush:

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Yes the way I conceptualize it, is that I liken the Primer to our ability to shift states, and then depending on the title and how far removed that state is from your current state, will determine how much and how intense the recon is. Then over time, as our ability to shift states improves, recon will become much less.

Could very well be, the reason I asked was in the case of there not being a door to open, like the castle with no entrances. To your second point, putting a lot of pressure on the subs to perform, I would think that the knowledge of the Primer being beneficial for any ZP title you run afterwards would take a lot of the pressure away.

Absolutely, I’m just channeling some of my excitement for ZP and how it changed the game haha

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No. I only use Masked, so just whatever is comfy at the moment.
If the sound irritates me, it’s a signal to skip the day. Lowering or raising it doesn’t help.

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Yes. Same reason why I started on ZP with earphones.
After 3 playing days and feeling too much overload, it was clear something needed to change.

Thankfully, the fix was easy for me.

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Ooh, Primer as the new Ultima. Built-in Ultima in every sub. Interesting idea.

But at the same time it creates a pattern of expectation. So if your perception is that it doesn’t have an incremental effect over time, it starts annoying you.

It’s a given that it helps whatever you run over the next 24-48 hours, we’ve seen as much during the test. But we have no idea about the long term effects yet. At least I don’t anyway. Risking somebody remarking the relativity of time, ZP hasn’t been around for very long yet.

Do you listen at specific times of the day, like morning or evening? I’ve noticed some differences. Actually had subs energize me in the morning and make me tired at night. That was helpful. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Good point, it can definitely work both ways. So all we can/should do is, like you said, trust the process :wink:

That is very cool. Regardless of the title?

On Dec 1st, I played 2 back-to-back loops around 4 PM, late afternoon.
Because I found it heavy, I simply started playing my stack right before going to bed.

Now with the speakers, I could test more variations. Haven’t planned as such though.

thanks, this is really interesting and definitely worth looking into. Thinking about it I think I have to agree that I got worse recon when using headphones compared to speakers. I always thought that headphones would also cause better positive effects so I just sticked to them (and Saint is also using headphones). I will now - thanks to your post - stick to speakers and see how it goes.

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I must be your perfect polar opposite
'now I’ll call myself UnkanyLight

I hope after a week or so it’ll get better :sweat_smile:

You just killed me of laughter. You’re a million percent right. Will try to stop being such a passive lurker.

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Will each module have to be rewritten for qzp?

You killed me a bit after I died. Shotgun effect. What did you manifest?

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I believe so.

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I might be C1 level in english but I’m not sure what you meant here, I’m getting hungry so my brain goes off ( do you mean that I’m worsening your situation ahahaha ?). For the manifestation well let’s say they’re more outsides confirmations that the sub is slowly starting to express more the title than the power of the sub just slipping out through the first random stuff that just goes over my mind

The rest I let you read in my zp journal if you’re really curious about it
wink wink :wink:

Let’s put it this way. (You writing symphonie instead of symphony makes me assume you’re french speaking)
I was already dead of laughter then 'je me suis retourne dans ma tombe… De rire…"

You’re explanation made me thing of a quote of Anaximander the greek philosopher, and honestly I could never make out what he meant. :rofl:

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You could be dutch too

You’re right, even tho I badly wrote it XD

ahhhhhhhh I understand better now glad that I participate in your bestest mood

Nope shouldn’t stand your ground on the first guess :laughing:

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It happened with one specific title. If I knew the one, I would definitely have named it. :slightly_smiling_face:

Usually they energize me the first one or two weeks, even without a washout or if I’ve listened to it a while back. Then they taper off and I stop noticing much, generally getting a bit more tired mentally depending on how many loops I’ve done. Meaning on a day with subs I’ll get tired enough to go to bed faster than on a day without subs.

Then after a while, weeks or months, they start making me more mentally exhausted than they used to. Which is usually when I switch topic. And by topic I mean things like Wealth, Health, Romance and Spirituality, to name the big ones.

I’m considering being naughty and sneaking in a single Paragon ZP on speakers when I go to bed. I did Paragon for a long time, I see it as maintenance. Of course hoping not to fall in the trap of “well, it’s only 15 minutes, maybe I should add one more even though I already start my day off with 2 loops of RICH ZP.”

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Same here. I was probably overhyped reading testers journals and posts here almost every day, so I had probably too much expectations. And from what I learned, having much expectations is a recipe for feeling bad. First few days I almost experienced nothing, and the last few days there is similar recon like on Qv2. And I on purpose added only 2 subs in my stack (Wanted + PS) in order to get faster results.

But I am only about 3 months in my SC journey, so I will give it a time. I was already having some results with Qv2, this can only get better I know…just that I am a bit impatient.

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When updating customs from now is it better to wait till the ZP versions are available ? or is this going to be long wait.

Dude. You’ve been in this forum longer than I have. You know this has been both asked and answered

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