Just a thought experiment…
As the sole operator of my own reality, it is my own fault that some of you are not manifesting the results you want.
I need to work my subconscious harder to make sure that everybody gets the results of ZP instantly.
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You forgot the second part of this: namely, that we’re co-creators.
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You are both right, thus why it is a paradox.
I just wrote the word ‘co-creators’ in another post, at around the same time that you were typing this.
woooo 
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My perfect stack would be Choosen+Emperor and Rich+Limitless but we only can run 3 at a time.
Choose between RICH or Limitless based on your goals.
Emperor has both wealth manifestion (RICH goals) and Quantum Limitless Lite (Limitless goals). So choose based on what you need more right now.
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It also depends on the program you are running somehow. I thrived in the set in in forget it era 
For example I had no issue running 8 terminus loops daily of my Emperor-Khan custom, but I’ve never been able run more than 4 q loops of Stark. I think the difference is that I’ve run both Emperor and Khan extensively for more than one year before my custom.
Once I have a couple of months of ZP, I’ll be happy to be part of a controlled testing or something.
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Something clicked and I think I’m expressing the scripts at high flow again 
I wonder what triggers it
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can you give more details on what you mean by this?
im still really conflicted on if its wise for me to switch to ZP when seduction ultima is working so well for me.
what exactly can someone like me gain from switching to ZP?
with primal seduction ultima, my routine is simple and works every time. 2 loops 2 hours before i go the nightlife and i attract super hot women like crazy. im talking margot robbie level looks girls. and even better it also really intimidates men which i like.
so im pretty much getting instant results from seduction ultima as i get results like this within 2 hours.
ZP is asking me to commit 3 weeks.
why?
what would be the point for someone like me who is already such a strong responder to ultima?
why would i spend 3 weeks when ultima gives me results in 2 hours?
im really really curious about ZP but logically seems like a waste of time for someone like me and i should just focus on making the most of the amazing opportunities primal ultima is giving me already.
what are your thoughts?
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You have to try it to see. Everyone responds different. Either do it or don’t.
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Didn’t mean for the last post to seem/sound so curt. I failed there.
Ultimas can work fast for sure. But it’s temporary.
The promise of ZP (I think. Personal assessment) is that after you run it enough in accordance with your goals, you won’t need to run it anymore. Permanent identity shift in the direction of your goals.
If this is an actuate assessment on my part, I think it’s the first sub build type that can boast that.
EDIT: overall I’ve not been a fan of Ultimas. I can’t squarely land my finger on why.
With ZP, we’re talking a maximum total runtime of 45 minutes per listening day. And that’s if you do the full 3 loops!
15 mins of Primal Seduction on listening days has the distinct possibility of changing your life forever!
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Less time to listen, less reconciliation, faster results
With PS ZP, 2 loops 30 minutes
ZP Preview Test is asking for 3 weeks. You will get faster results than that
If you respond very well to Ultima, you will respond even more better to ZP. ZP can be used the way you are using Ultima. Just don’t play too many loops since it’s not required.
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What I’d recommend is this:
- Stop the Ultima version
- Try out the ZP version
- Compare results
- Share with the forum in here/sub’s main thread
- Profit with the feedback
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Normally I’d say “if it ain’t broken, don’t fix it”. However, ZP is soooo good that it’d be a mistake not to try it.
As others have said, results will be better and more profound. Also, there would be less chance of reconciliation and you won’t need to spend so much time listening.
And to clarify, you don’t have to commit 3 weeks. You’ll see results within hours, if not immediately.
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Seems to me a simple solution is to reserve the higher powered ZPs for “graduates”.
Someone buys ZP 101 and runs it for a while. Once they’ve documented related positive results, they unlock ZP 201. And so on.
Just like most Freshman shouldn’t jump to an advanced 401 class, neither should a novice customer jump into a 401 ZP. Let them work up to it.
That protects the idiots from self-harm and the only people who get the more powerful ZPs are ones who’ve shown they can be responsible with the lower ZP.
Also seems like a good way to optimize results, too.
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There’s probably a sweet spot. You could try backing them off bed time. If you normally go to bed at 11pm, try the ZP at 10. If you still can’t sleep, next time you try 9. And keep going back an hour until you can sleep. You’ll likely either find a time that doesn’t hamper your day but doesn’t keep you up at night. And/or you may also find you get used to it and are able to sleep after listening closer to bedtime, anyway.
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The problem with that is that each person is likely to get something different out of it.
An analogy I think fits is this:
You have aspiring 3 bakers and they’ve all been making consistently BAD cakes.
Along comes a guy who says, “You’re making bad cakes because you need more SUGAR!”.
All three bakers add more sugar to their next cake. But only ONE cake comes out better. WHY? Because he was the only one who was using too little sugar. Maybe one of the bakers uses too much flour and the other uses too few eggs.
What works depends on what’s lacking and is individual.
Now, it sounds like ZP is really good at helping each person figure out what they need from the sub.
So, if a man came by and said, “You need more sugar, less flour, and an extra egg”, One baker would realize he needed the sugar but was fine with the flour and egg. Another would intuitively know all he needed was more flour. Ect.
The ZP subs work differently for everyone because everyone has a different mix of strengths, weaknesses, and life experience. ZP will help them fill in the gaps, strengthen weaknesses, and capitalize strengths.
At least that’s how I imagine it.
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Perhaps study the lives/biographies of wealthy people who used their wealth to improve the lives of their loved ones, community, and world. And maybe take note of how many poor people make bad choices or are unable to do much for their loved ones, communities, and the world.
Really home in on that and your view of wealth vs poverty might change.
Of course, there are terrible rich people and wonderful poor people. But even that acknowledgement reinforces that wealth doesn’t MAKE you good or bad. In fact, all wealth does is give you more CHOICES. What choices will you make as a rich person? What choices are beyond your reach because of your current financial status?
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Don’t just rely on the subs. Go find books on changing limiting beliefs. Go find wealthy people you admire and TALK to them about money and their relationship with it. Go volunteer at charities that help poor people and consider if NOT having money is actually helping these people.
Make lists of what having more money would mean to you. What will you do with it? Will you be Hedonistic? Or will you use at least some of your wealth to build up people around you? How will lots of money free you up to spend quality time with your wife and children (current or future)? What kinds of experiences would money allow you to offer your family? What would a life without financial stress mean to your health and relationships?
Find people who once feared wealth and overcame it. Read about their experience. Or find them and talk to them personally.
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I know that feel. And if you have read certain books you also realize that money is absolutely UNNECESSARY, we could live fine without, and that makes it even harder.
It’s also a trap many spiritual journists fall into. “As a spiritual man I shouldn’t care about these material things.”
Yeah, sure.
But you still gotta make ends meet, right? And even then, if you actually have MORE money you can also help MORE people.
There’s a lot of limiting beliefs about money I am also still battling in this regard. Especially in connection with spirituality and not WANTING to care about money. But I HAVE to. Somewhat.
I guess this hinders success to some degree.
I am still waiting for OG Blue Skies ZP Level 5
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