@SaintSovereign could you indicate whether the launches are days, weeks, a month or several months away?
You guys are doing too much. It most certainly will not have anything to do with Thelema and the such.
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Soon.
!5char
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Subliminal Club - we don’t approve of discussion of occult practices on the forum so as to not give naive lurkers the wrong impression.
Forum members - new Fire sub is def in the vein of western occult practices and traditions because of this one Google result 
Lmao you guys
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Members hoping to stack the new Aeon and Hero titles, envisioning the results of their stacks –
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Sorry, I didn’t mean to indicate anything occult
Or that it would be based on anything occult.
The world doesn’t want to work anymore. Everyone wants to awaken their Kundalinis and become gods, or play with traditions like that. And I always ask – to what end? What exactly will you do if you “became a god?” With the state of humanity right now, the obvious answer to me is: “Nothing good.”
Zero Point is so incredibly practical and down to earth and it’s method of operation is actually quite simple and explainable, rofl.
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lol, I suggest you read the Wikipedia page on Thelema.
I guess that’s what people think is happening at SubClub HQ, when the truth of the matter is that I’m sitting here working with Star Trek playing in the background.
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Whew thanks for clearing that up. No offense to anyone who practices but I want nothing to do with Thelema or Golden Dawn(or any lodge occult orders).
Sure, but let’s distinguish here between “occult” and “spiritual”, which is more about inner development and refinement of the spirit, not about summoning demons and the like.
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Rest assured, that is not the case. If anyone really wants to know more about Zero Point, they should look into rhetoric, logic, reason and dialetic, but that isn’t nearly as fun.
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My brother in spirit, the founder of Thelema was running around calling himself “The Beast 666.” Now, I know someone is going to run up and say “omgz Saint, you just don’t understand the deeper meanings,” since I’ve had that thrown at me before when discussing such things, but the truth of the matter is that I simply don’t care, lol.
Such things are not necessary for the development of Zero Point, which is rooted in the nature of language, the interaction between language and the individual’s personal reality and how that affects collective reality. And since I already have little time, I don’t have the bandwidth (mentally, or in regards to time) to contemplate the “deeper meaning” of a name taken from (arguably) the central adversary in the oft-ignored final book of the Holy Bible, The Revelation of Jesus Christ.
Considering the fact that here we have atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, Daoists, Christians, Zoroastrians and more, all working collectively to improve each other’s lives, such inflammatory and controversial things have no place here, as we are attempting to promote harmony and peace amongst all peoples.
Seriously, where else on the internet can you find American Democrats and Republicans placing down their arms to simply work together in some meaningful fashion to achieve a goal that helps all?
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So much is going on and I have no clue what is going on in this conversation
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Limitless made them fun for me
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We prob gotta get back on topic but I want to throw out one last thing regarding Saint saying subs/zp isn’t as cool or magickal as people think.
I found this place because I used to be in another subs forum(much larger, way more members) but their main focus was physical shifts. They posted pics to show progress and what subs are working and which are not(they were 95% youtube subs). Some results were meh, but others were nothing short of “damn…there’s no way…this person had to have gotten major surgery done”. And they would post pics from multiple angles to beat the photo editing allegations.
Now granted, most of these people would play subs 4-10 hours a day 7 days a week, but still some of their results were insane. But seeing these results is what made me take subs seriously and eventually find this place.
Ok back on topic. I always wanted to share the above but never wanted to start a whole thread for it 
EDIT: Also Saint thats not a dig at you, I’m saying you prob dont see it as magickal because you’re around it a lot so to you, the magick is normal.
Well, I never said that subliminal audio isn’t cool. It’s a quite interesting field. What I meant is that people assume since the results can be incredible, then the actual process of creating them must be equally “incredible.” And I’m here to tell you that it’s not as glamourous as you think. It can be boring beyond belief to write a title at times and to avoid mistakes, you have to develop a deep sense of focus AND detachment – from your own boredom and from the thralls of achievement, success and status – lest you end up creating something where the producer’s own ego gets too involved and you end up with something useless.
Hence why you see us appearing as “detached and direct.”’ I personally have been working on detachment from such things for years now, and the more detached I become, the better creativity flows, since we’re responding to what the collective needs or asks for rather than using this as a platform to push our own ideas and agenda. While I’ve become a staunch humanitarian, I also feel that is not moral to strongly push those ideas as if that’s what EVERYONE needs (unless it’s outright spoken of in the copy, titles like Chosen). And thus, Subliminal Club becomes a celebration of the diversity of humanity itself, providing tools that everyone can use to harness their inner will and develop the life that they want to experience.
But yes, let us return to the topic at hand.
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I love that
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I know you put out a post regarding Zero Point recently but the topic fascinates me so much. You made a comment a long time ago saying something about not being able to hide from Zero Point. That has stuck with me
Well, the natural outflow of engaging with the subconscious is that which is hidden within you will externalize into the conscious mind and possibly even in your day-to-day reality. The issue is that most people will project those issues on to another person rather than dealing with them in a positive manner, and you end up with harsh and negative situations. Hence, you “can’t hide from Zero Point,” because you are the Zero Point. Who can truly hide from themselves?
People can project all they want, but until the core issues are dealt with in life, those same cycles will repeat and repeat and repeat, sometimes with increasing intensity. That is, until one finally learns to take control of the situation, take action and resolve the issue.
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My guess on AEON:
It’s a manifestation 4stager. Manifest the (personal) world, the life you really want. (Would be ambitious, but would also explain, why development took a little longer.)
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