We’re talking about OG RICH right?
Because I keep seeing RICH TRADER everytime it gets brought up.
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Are you referring to RICH TRADER?
The plan is to upgrade my StarkOG with a few modules would rather wait till the new start OG arrives. What are the expected time lines ?
Rich Trader was also mentionned by Saint a bit higher in this conversation. Still in the probably category tho.
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I think theyre going to update beyond limitless,wanted,emperor executive first to include some parts of it in new stark so might be a while
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@SaintSovereign Out of curiosity how will the updated GLM help someone deal with people who try to gaslight, guilt trip ,or be passive aggressive?
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Stoicism deals with it nicely, mate.
You’re a rock amidst the storm.
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will beyond limitless and limitless executive be different?
It will probably be the basic of acting against it.
You’ll stay calm, grounded and resilient. You’ll be able to think about it and act without attachment for their reaction or what they think about you.
Gaslighting, guilt tripping and passive aggressiveness will easily be dismantled by Stoicism.
Staying calm will help you spot the gas lighter by analysing what is happening and stay very calm. Being able to dismantle the argument and explain it calmly, refusing to be carried away in the frame of the gas lighter.
Same with guilt tripping, you’ll care less what they think of you, you’ll be able to spot their scheme a mile aways and call them out on it. By staying true to your value, you probably won’t value what they are doing and won’t feel bad for it.
Passive aggressiveness, multiple way to deal with it my favorite is to just ask, or find a way to smoothly ask “What do you mean by that”… “Hahaha, well, when you say that I can’t help to ask myself why you say that” → Simple switch up from all fun to questionning when someone drop a passive agressive joke.
A lot easier to do when you have multiple occurrence. I always recoment to the people I work with to spot repetition pattern, from there when you talk to someone you have 3+ example to give them when they try to dodge your questions.
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Imagine when Wonder is stacked with Stark !!!.
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This only happens when someone resents you, when people do like you and respect you it will not happen in the first place. Of course there are true douchebags out there but most likely after some serious growth they will choose another target.
So I think it will go away altogether. Perhaps you can inspire respect:
Otherwise what others mentioned, resilience. You will become unaffected by such behaviours from others and they will see that and realise it is not the way to go when treating other human beings.
You can inspire respect in some people, and with others, you need to enforce it—without losing your frame. I hope this will be covered in GLM.
To enforce respect without losing your frame means to assertively demand respect from others without becoming reactive, emotional, or stepping out of your grounded, composed identity. This means you:
- Set clear boundaries.
- Don’t tolerate disrespect (verbal, physical, or behavioral).
- Take action when someone crosses the line—either through words, demeanor, oractions.
Masculine power isn’t in social domination—it’s in calm, unwavering self-respect.
When you enforce respect from that place, people feel it.
If they refuse to respect you, you cut them out—treating them like air, as if they don’t exist. Unless they choose to get confrontational—then you put them back in their place with the right words or actions.
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Sounds very toxic to me.
People should authentically respect you because you are respect worthy.
Also why should you put anyone in their place? Who are you to say what anyones place is? What if the other guy also demands respect and wants to put you in your place? 
Just treat others with more respect than they treat themselves and you will see others respect and love you. Simple.
You want to demand respect but at the same time put other people in there place and give them zero respect?
What a horrible way to live. Just treat everyone with the highest form of respect and the same will return to you.
Usually it is because our own self-respect is low we treat others with little respect because it is how we treat ourselves.
Everything starts with self-respect.
Just to add, our views may be different on this subject but I never seen anyone who “demands” respect to be truly worthy of the respect and whenever that individual loses power the people will backstab him, because the respect is forced, meaning they do not truly feel like extending that respect but they feel forced to do so. It is not genuine and authentic, hence why it is toxic to me.
When you are worthy of respect, genuine people will naturally respect you. Also because you treat them with a high sense of respect there will be a mutual impulse to return it, respect goes both ways basically.
Imagine you go somewhere and you are suddenly being treated with far higher standards than you treat yourself and other people around you. How would you feel? Will you feel like disrespecting this person who makes you feel higher value and worth than you feel about yourself? Not really. If anything you will feel inspired to return the same.
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This!
Respect is earned, not demanded.
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I assure you, there’s nothing toxic about it. On the contrary, it helps you eliminate toxicity from your life.
I encourage you to meditate on one of the most classical “principle”:
It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both.
Some people just don’t respect others in a genuine way (so called “nice people”), and don’t believe that everyone deserves to be respected just because they’re sentient human beings. Therefore, you either enforce respect, cut them out (ignore or leave them), or confront them by reminding them of their place — a place of respect for you as a human being.
By cutting those toxic people out, you instill in them the fear of the unknown you’ve become. They don’t truly know you, they don’t know what to expect from you — and that makes them deeply uncomfortable and anxious.
The module Fearsome covers just that.
You will also find Fearsome to add a tinge of fearful respect to those who will not respect you in any other way. Use Fearsome wisely, and you will find a profound new tool becomes available to you.
It’s a must in GLM, I believe.
What a great falacy you believe in, dude.
I guess there should be a thread for GLM but it’s just around the corner.
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There is no outside toxicity, only your perception of it.Your only protection from perceived toxicity is yourself and your reaction to it.
If you have self-respect you will not feel the need for any of this. Why? Because once you respect yourself others will treat you in the same way you treat yourself. Others will treat you in the way you treat them.
You inspire respect not demand or force it. The individual who still misbehaves makes a fool of himself while your behaviour will clearly emulate your standards.
Any desire to aggressively control and force respect usually comes from insecurity. Ask yourself why is this such a big need of yours? If you have yourself together you do not need to control, demand or force to feel good about yourself because others “respect” you.
Especially if you demand respect you should give it back equally. Do not hold double standards.
What classic principle you mean a quote from the immoral machiavelli?
He died largely disgraced and viewed with suspicious, without respect after being arrested, tortured and exiled. His spend his final years trying to win over the Medici’s favour unsuccessfully.
By his fruits ye shall know them… I would try another philosophy if I was you.
I mean machiavelli was highly despised and considered a failed politician so yeah…
Probably his stuff will work for you in the short term until karma comes around to bite back. Which it inevitably does. I believe in good deeds and acts and in virtue personally.
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The fallacy is on your end, dude.
And the way you use ‘dude’ is intended as disrespect.
Yeah, that great master of old is largely misinterpreted.
Many great philosophies were misinterpreted and caused significant damage — like Hitlerism inspired by Nietzsche, and Pol Pot inspired by Sartre.
Anyway, we’re getting off topic.
Cheers, gus.
Let’s make another thread where people can share their opinions and viewpoints on these subjects I think it can be informative. Before this whole think gets cluttered. @Sub.Zero @JCDenton
None is right or wrong in sharing their viewpoints perhaps as a community thought project we can come to come conclusion on this.
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