Totally agree you gotta run a few subs before you figure out what you actually need. I only joined SubClub back in February, and now I’m planning to go Khan Black for the long haul. Thing is, when I first got here, I didn’t even give Khan Black a second glance, no different than a hot 10 walking past a fat gas station attendant.
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As you change your interests and/or focus changes… I don’t recommend sub hopping but find what “you” need and want, not just what’s shiny.
The issue with wanting something from a subliminal is that it sets up certain expectations. These expectations not only limit how our subconscious responds to the subliminal, but they can also fill us with frustration—or spark the urge to try another sub, and another, and so on (sub hopping).
I’m not saying that setting goals (knowing what you want) is inherently wrong—how could I? But relying too much on your subliminal (making it your crutch) and expecting it alone to bring you the desired results can actually limit your experience and close you off from a vital part of the process that many overlook: the unfolding.
Another important point: while consistency matters, it’s not the most important factor. You can be consistent with a sub that doesn’t necessarily address the core false beliefs or limiting patterns you need to break through to reach your “next level.” In some cases, it might even be a sub that hinders rather than helps your unfolding subliminal experience.
Interestingly, deliberate sub hopping can actually support the unfolding process. It can help you identify what truly needs to be addressed in order to accelerate your growth. Sometimes, running a sub for just one or two weeks can bring significant insights and shifts. For example, I only used Genesis for two weeks, but it helped me confront the biggest obstacle on my path: self-sabotage.
Let your subliminal journey unfold naturally. Apply the right toolbox (stack), work through your internal limitations, and most importantly—enjoy your growth.
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This should be pinned its great advice for any newbie. I know I do joke alot about when are the founders going to release the latest and greatest versions. Stop this please and use the current version they are just as good. Meanwhile cintinue working on your goals and move to the new vetsion later when its released.
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So …
Conscious Non-Guidance?
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Exactly, mate. That’s the sweet spot—subconscious guidance. When you’re attuned to it, you stop forcing change and start flowing with it. The nudges, the gut feelings, the inner pull—that’s your mind aligning with the subliminal blueprint. Subtle at first, then undeniable.
Keep listening. Keep feeling. The shift isn’t always loud, but it’s always there if you’re tuned in.
I suppose the main obstacle here is the common belief—rooted in fear—that the rational must rein in the irrational and keep it under control. An impossible task, anyway. The real challenge is becoming comfortable with the truth that we are irrational beings, and that the lion’s share of our lives is driven by the irrational. There’s nothing wrong with that at all.
The irrational and unconscious are a vast treasury we can benefit from immensely—if only we stop letting the rational get in the way with its silly expectations and our fleeting and petty desires.
The core truth here most people resist is that we’re not rational creatures who occasionally feel—we’re emotional, intuitive beings who occasionally reason. And that resistance comes from fear, as I said—the fear of letting go, of surrendering control to something deeper and more mysterious and unpredictable.
But the real power lies in embracing that irrational, and unconscious side—not as a flaw, but as a potential. It’s the source of creativity, instinct, charisma, drive, passion, and so much more. Trying to cage it with reason and will is like trying to tame the ocean with a measuring cup.
When you stop demanding that the subconscious follow your conscious guidance and stop filtering every impulse through reason, you make room for the real magic to happen. Your irrational self already knows where you want to go. The trick is getting your rational mind and petty desires to step aside long enough to let it lead you.
Get in sync with that force, and life stops being a struggle—and starts being a dance.
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I have learned to keep rereading the sales copy of the main titles and modules in my custom and then take action that aligns with the sales copy. Its like reading a blueprint or a recipe book and then the action part is following the blueprint or recipe. It turns a mock up drawing into a tangible asset.
The new executive helps with that exponentially. As someone with ADHD its easily the most impactful subliminal. I though EoG change my life, but it has nothing on the firepower of executive. Its like driving a race car. You are operating on the edge and nailing all of your marks. Occasionally you spin out, whip the car around and resume the race.
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Yall realize you can just get what you want, right? Like the objectives list, the “archetypes” none of that really needs to stop you.
Like you can manifest hyper specific stuff on these subs.
Healing and trauma clearing aside, you can pretty much do anything with any sub.
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Or learn to integrate the rational with irrational. Develop will power alongside intuition, and watch as things happen exactly as you desire them to. It’s a dance.
Yin & Yang, not one or the other.
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The truth is, we don’t need subs at all to do so, mate. There’s almost nothing you’ve achieved using subs that you wouldn’t have been able to achieve without them—because you are the agent, not the sub you’re running.
Of course, subs facilitate the process and act as great catalysts, yet not just because of the scripting, but also because of your intent and the action you take while running them.
I’m afraid this doesn’t apply to what I said. Moreover, I didn’t side with the irrational over the rational. I simply emphasized how the fear of the unknown and the tendency to cling to what we can understand and to what we want (and expect) limit the wisdom and energy that flow from the subconscious.
Cheers, guys.
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I have been feeling like there comes a time where trust and less thinking is the only way forward. We have systems, understandings and views that help us make things make sense.
Taking action while letting go… going deeper and deeper into that every day. 1% better, 1% better and so on… and when enough time have passed the wisdom and fruits of progress come as realisations.
What im trying to say most people sharing their wisdom and advice did not figure it out before getting there… they do so as they keep moving forward. We are all becoming more aware of the unknown, the chaos or the void… that is our reality. Scary yes but infinite in possibility.
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The exact reason why I reminded the community about the most obvious:
to “combat” the very tendency you mentioned. However, I offered my kind reminder from the most recent perspective that has become particularly prominent in my journey. I think, thanks to the new recon tech.
Cheers.
@Sub.Zero The anti recon helped us fit so many puzzle pieces toghether but you are the only other one ive seen to embrace the void like i have. It’s been one hell of a ride
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I’m really excited about getting the updated version of the new recon tech as @SaintSovereign said they have enough data to do so.
But when? @AnswerGroup
Khaos is coming. We all must embrace it.
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Ay my brethren’s of the void. Our consciousness creates invisible space time.
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I haven’t consciously chosen subs for quite a while now, I run whatever I feel drawn to right now. Which ISNT sub hopping because I feel drawn to one sub for quite a while.
Needs a bit of practice though, imo.
Then again, ever since my awakening, there is nothing I really WANT or NEED from life, that makes it a lot easier. Currently only running one sub, when back in the days I would struggle to fit 3 into the stack because there were 9 I wanted to run 
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Not the onion!!!
I’m ready for what comes next now. lol
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For the wisdom and energies flowing underneath are Khaos — a power you can’t resist and must embrace. Those who see, see. Those who don’t will — or remain forever bound in darkness.
@Niles You like this shit, so I’ve tagged you, mate.
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Are we really irrational though? If a child is punished for doing something wrong they learn that action or behavior within themselves creates a certain outcome. If this then that pure logic. The foundational building blocks are comprised of nothing but experience with no inherent biases. The most rational thing being to respond in a way that won’t have them abandoned. As they grow older they perceive their behavior as irrational, but at its core it is incredibly rational and grounded in experience and observation of what kept them safe. Consciously it just appears irrational because it’s unwanted behaviors.
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