Imagine when Wonder is stacked with Stark !!!.
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This only happens when someone resents you, when people do like you and respect you it will not happen in the first place. Of course there are true douchebags out there but most likely after some serious growth they will choose another target.
So I think it will go away altogether. Perhaps you can inspire respect:
Otherwise what others mentioned, resilience. You will become unaffected by such behaviours from others and they will see that and realise it is not the way to go when treating other human beings.
You can inspire respect in some people, and with others, you need to enforce it—without losing your frame. I hope this will be covered in GLM.
To enforce respect without losing your frame means to assertively demand respect from others without becoming reactive, emotional, or stepping out of your grounded, composed identity. This means you:
- Set clear boundaries.
- Don’t tolerate disrespect (verbal, physical, or behavioral).
- Take action when someone crosses the line—either through words, demeanor, oractions.
Masculine power isn’t in social domination—it’s in calm, unwavering self-respect.
When you enforce respect from that place, people feel it.
If they refuse to respect you, you cut them out—treating them like air, as if they don’t exist. Unless they choose to get confrontational—then you put them back in their place with the right words or actions.
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Sounds very toxic to me.
People should authentically respect you because you are respect worthy.
Also why should you put anyone in their place? Who are you to say what anyones place is? What if the other guy also demands respect and wants to put you in your place? 
Just treat others with more respect than they treat themselves and you will see others respect and love you. Simple.
You want to demand respect but at the same time put other people in there place and give them zero respect?
What a horrible way to live. Just treat everyone with the highest form of respect and the same will return to you.
Usually it is because our own self-respect is low we treat others with little respect because it is how we treat ourselves.
Everything starts with self-respect.
Just to add, our views may be different on this subject but I never seen anyone who “demands” respect to be truly worthy of the respect and whenever that individual loses power the people will backstab him, because the respect is forced, meaning they do not truly feel like extending that respect but they feel forced to do so. It is not genuine and authentic, hence why it is toxic to me.
When you are worthy of respect, genuine people will naturally respect you. Also because you treat them with a high sense of respect there will be a mutual impulse to return it, respect goes both ways basically.
Imagine you go somewhere and you are suddenly being treated with far higher standards than you treat yourself and other people around you. How would you feel? Will you feel like disrespecting this person who makes you feel higher value and worth than you feel about yourself? Not really. If anything you will feel inspired to return the same.
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This!
Respect is earned, not demanded.
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I assure you, there’s nothing toxic about it. On the contrary, it helps you eliminate toxicity from your life.
I encourage you to meditate on one of the most classical “principle”:
It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both.
Some people just don’t respect others in a genuine way (so called “nice people”), and don’t believe that everyone deserves to be respected just because they’re sentient human beings. Therefore, you either enforce respect, cut them out (ignore or leave them), or confront them by reminding them of their place — a place of respect for you as a human being.
By cutting those toxic people out, you instill in them the fear of the unknown you’ve become. They don’t truly know you, they don’t know what to expect from you — and that makes them deeply uncomfortable and anxious.
The module Fearsome covers just that.
You will also find Fearsome to add a tinge of fearful respect to those who will not respect you in any other way. Use Fearsome wisely, and you will find a profound new tool becomes available to you.
It’s a must in GLM, I believe.
What a great falacy you believe in, dude.
I guess there should be a thread for GLM but it’s just around the corner.
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There is no outside toxicity, only your perception of it.Your only protection from perceived toxicity is yourself and your reaction to it.
If you have self-respect you will not feel the need for any of this. Why? Because once you respect yourself others will treat you in the same way you treat yourself. Others will treat you in the way you treat them.
You inspire respect not demand or force it. The individual who still misbehaves makes a fool of himself while your behaviour will clearly emulate your standards.
Any desire to aggressively control and force respect usually comes from insecurity. Ask yourself why is this such a big need of yours? If you have yourself together you do not need to control, demand or force to feel good about yourself because others “respect” you.
Especially if you demand respect you should give it back equally. Do not hold double standards.
What classic principle you mean a quote from the immoral machiavelli?
He died largely disgraced and viewed with suspicious, without respect after being arrested, tortured and exiled. His spend his final years trying to win over the Medici’s favour unsuccessfully.
By his fruits ye shall know them… I would try another philosophy if I was you.
I mean machiavelli was highly despised and considered a failed politician so yeah…
Probably his stuff will work for you in the short term until karma comes around to bite back. Which it inevitably does. I believe in good deeds and acts and in virtue personally.
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The fallacy is on your end, dude.
And the way you use ‘dude’ is intended as disrespect.
Yeah, that great master of old is largely misinterpreted.
Many great philosophies were misinterpreted and caused significant damage — like Hitlerism inspired by Nietzsche, and Pol Pot inspired by Sartre.
Anyway, we’re getting off topic.
Cheers, gus.
Let’s make another thread where people can share their opinions and viewpoints on these subjects I think it can be informative. Before this whole think gets cluttered. @Sub.Zero @JCDenton
None is right or wrong in sharing their viewpoints perhaps as a community thought project we can come to come conclusion on this.
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Yes, it is all very simple:
We are all mirroring to each other back and forth what we subconsciously believe about ourselves and the others.
Yet, also and at the same time, everyone has free will and can decide whether they will execute on those mirrors and perceptions or not.
We can believe that we are the most worthy of respect and we can decide to offer this respect to others and treat them the same.
But it is up to their free will to decide whether they will play along with this perception of ourselves or not.
Most people will, but some will not.
That’s the nature of free will.
You cannot force ALL of reality to comply with just your own version of yourself.
Others can freely choose to live in their own version of reality and perception too.
In this case it is best to part ways with such individuals as everyone chooses to live in a different version of it.
That’s why cutting out “toxic people” is the right way to go in order to remain congruent with your own version of self respect.
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I’m afraid what we’re seeing here is a classic case of projection.
Seriously, stop believing that you can earn everyone’s respect. That belief is highly detrimental. You cannot. I dare say that most of the so-called respect you’ve earned would fall apart at the slightest opportunity to use you or at the slightest sign of hostility from you—even if it was only projected onto you.
Cheers, MATE.
Some individuals will never extend basic respect to others not due to misunderstanding or conflict, but because they exploit social hierarchies and power dynamics for personal validation. In such cases, especially in professional environments where parting ways isn’t feasible, passive tolerance can be interpreted as submission. This often leads to what social psychologists call instrumental aggression where someone uses another as a tool to elevate their own status or maintain dominance within a group.
If respect is not actively asserted and boundaries clearly enforced, you risk becoming a scapegoat or pawn in their social maneuvering, a phenomenon well documented in dominance theory and social dominance orientation. Allowing such behavior reinforces toxic group dynamics and weakens your perceived social capital, ultimately compromising your psychological safety and professional integrity.
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Guys come join the philosophy corner if you want to share your input.
@Andythegreat I have myself seen again and again in group dynamics and work environments how only the weaklings become scapegoats of bad behaviours from others.
Those evil impulses from others that exist in the world always find a door for expression somewhere. They express through bad people who resonate with like thoughts and energies, and then get projected on the weakest and most vulnerable of the lot.
However, those who hold themselves in high esteem and have a sense of self-respect about themselves are never such targets, people instantly notice and feel they are not the people to budge with.
This does not mean directly enforcing anything, but indirectly, through your presence and the power and strength you live with can invariably attract, subtly, as if by subtle forces a different kind of reality for yourself.
I think many people have interesting opinions to share about subjects such as these let us move this to the philosophy corner to keep it separate from the official discussion here.
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What this about? Is the anti-recon module in the Q store getting an update or am I misunderstanding this?
Not really. I’m speaking from my own experiences and observations. I recently had my own run in with someone “demanding” respect that did not end well for them.
And no, I don’t believe I can earn everyone’s respect, not at all! I wouldn’t want to try. Sounds exhausting.
I do make a distinction between courtesy and respect.
Anywho, I readily admit I misunderstand things at times. Perhaps it was the case here. Have a good day, @Sub.Zero
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Emperor: The Executive is getting an update.
It’s getting the anti recon treatment and they’ll balance taking action and rest.
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The invisible element of the three patterns you’ve mentioned is this: our own tacit participation.
These dysfunctional interactional styles ‘work’ on us because we (often unintentionally) give too much of our power to the other person. To the gaslighter, to the guilt-tripper, to the passive aggressive person.
That is one reason why a program like GLM can make such a profound difference. It shifts the underlying patterns that are feeding and powering the whole dynamic.
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There you go, very good insight Malkuth, able to say what I was trying to get at in 1 paragraph!
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