Main Disc. Thread - Fire vs. Saint Round 4 (Finale Pre-Discussion)

I’d love something in HERO like akin to “invisibility”. Kidding. Sorta. Or am I?

I remember reading an ebook years ago about how Ninjas were able to be “invisible” at night by contorting their bodies and taking on the shape of something like a tree or bush. So people would “see” a “tree” and think nothing of it.

That always sticks out in my memory for some reason.

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I am really excited for this one :slight_smile:

I do hope it keeps the mind body optimization but like you said the physical shifting and yes skill mastery would be great.

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The fuck, guys?

Don’t you remember the ultimate goal SC is striving for? It’s to get off subs completely and still get amazing results.Source.

We’re closer to this than any of you think. It feels like it’s just around the corner with the new recon tech.

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The son of Saint and the Son of Fire will continue to run SC when they both retire. Likewise their grandchildren will continue the tradition.

That would slow down the advancement of humanity tremendously. However, it’s not for us to decide.

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I been sensing something in that respect with my HeO / KB3 / IC journey (sometimes I have switched out KB3 for Alchemist). Some of the material I’ve been studying felt like I needed to share it as food for thought / contributions towards the eventual RoB. Really astounding stuff that I think is probably a lot in line with ZPU, but I chose to hold off sending anything to Saint yet until I’ve had more of a chance to work with it and see how it could fit in.

In the meantime I’m actually curious to see how **** *** ****** fares after all the far out suggestions people gave for what to add into that one. I’m assuming based on what Fire and Saint have said so far that that one is part of the upcoming season. It sounded like it showed a lot of potential.

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Who knows we might get Rich Trader dropped.

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The son of Saint will continue the legacy and creare more powerful products for man kind.

Hahaha, I would like that! Hopefully they can focus a lot on emotion management and detachment, even head funds managers, basically any traders needs to be pretty solid.

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I think that’s the right assumption—and that **** *** ****** will contain the essence of the entire ZPU concept, much like the Revelation series did when it comes to the NSE.


There are moments when I feel I could easily and naturally achieve the results I’m getting with TS, even without running it—especially after having debunked a lot of false beliefs, misperceptions and limiting beliefs thanks to its scripting and, of course, the new recon scripting.

That’s enabled me to become much more flexible in how I create and express myself. It feels like I’ve gained far more freedom in the process of my own individuation, and I’m fully aware that it’s me who is the source of all this—not the audio I’m listening to.

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For me with IC as the anti-recon obviously I am noticing the IC script executing and the results of that. Regarding the anti-recon scripting itself applying it to the other subs, a couple of things seem to be happening that I’ve noticed.

Number one is the increase in dream plane activity which we already discussed.

Number two has to do with self expression and has to do with me being less concerned about pursuing paths others would perceive as fringe or a waste of time or stupid, etc, trusting my own judgement of the value of the material I’m studying and my ability to make an objective assessment of it and its value. Also with regards social interaction, more willing to speak up when someone is trying to force their perspective on me by reminding them of our individual differences, among other things.

Final thing is some of the material I’ve been studying seems to be hinting to me at deeper levels of how ZP works, almost as if the sub is teaching me about itself and its own modality of use. I don’t know if thats the right way of explaining it, but its a very meta kind of thing, seems like theres some beneficial recursion going on.

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Isn’t it all about becoming more and more aligned with your true self?

Isn’t your deeper mind constantly guiding you toward discovering its secrets—for your own benefit?

It seems like your trust in yourself and the process grows stronger and stronger.

You can trust yourself and the process more when you’re being more truthful with yourself.

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:100: Facts

It’s a wrap! I just looped “Chosen” with “Wanted OG,” and while the stack was beautiful, it felt a bit dated. Today, I had to acknowledge that WB has consistently supported me, and I’m ready to fully trust that. ZP has evolved significantly since its beginning, but the improvement process has profoundly changed my life in ways I’m still trying to understand. The essence of “Wanted” was present, but it couldn’t compete with the superiority of WB. :sunglasses::100:

Dang, I’m going to miss those synchronizties of Chosen :upside_down_face:

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I was 100% saying that

Could be from running HOM, I’m starting to think in these ways.

mmmn I do not think I like the way all that was phrased.

I do not think I shall take on board these suggestions, no.

Continue to experience things for myself I will, hmmmn.

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or an EOG: RICH AI Multistage.

Generator
Developer
Engineer
Entrepreneur

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I really really hope that @SaintSovereign and @Fire include something like the AI Whisperer into every single productivity title in the future. The future will be based on leveraging AI. Any person who can not do that will be less productive than any person who knows how to leverage AI in the right way.

I think the meaning of that is achieving the results of a certain sub at such speed and efficiency while retaining it’s effects to a level where running the sub further becomes redundant. Then the user gets on a different sub, different focus and so on

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Hmm, what if what’s around the corner is that all titles get the ZPU update, just like when ZP V1 went to ZP V2? That would be great! :+1:

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I’ve been running TS for only four weeks, and it already feels like I could get off this sub. The obstructive subconscious structures I’ve worked through were the most difficult to reconcile, as they were rooted in many traumatic experiences.

However, it’s not only about the results I’m getting—it’s about a certain mind’s disposition that has become immensely stronger within me. This disposition is the very foundation of self-empowerment, which is the ultimate goal of running any sub.

That mind’s disposition is nothing less than truly knowing yourself—and the courage that arises from that knowing. When the unknown no longer exists, nothing is impossible for the mind.

I’ll understand even more when I get the chance to run another sub based on this new recon tech.

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