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Done… my bad
Well there is more to be cosiderd. For example if wanting to get laid asap is the goal, then WB and RoN is the fastet option.
If the goal is to develop masculinity and attractivness. Primal Seduction and Libertine are a great combo
If the goal is to be better at sex. Then Any Diamond + Sex Mastery is the go to
If the goal is to build a general base of confidence and attractiveness. Then emperor or Ascended Mogul is a good choice.
Remeber that subclub does not simply throw subs out unless they serve a specific purpose. As of this moment, WB is the top contender simply because it’s an artisian product in ZPv2 max with a very long script.
Remeber the goal, and then find the subs
Edit: Khan and Khan Black are also there but they are far more extensive than single stage subs
Edit 2: Just saw the graph which makes this post redundant good job btw i think ill save it for future referense
Yeah the chart is awesome. I should make one of my own for wealth!
A note on Ascension… I thought it deserved a 1/3 star on relationship & seduction, as those are all on the objectives for Ascension. Point #3 is “increase your seduction skills”
And, in a different way than Khan does, GLM certainly has some raw sexuality by healing any blockers to your masculinity. I know some users have had big changes in their perceptions of sex on GLM
Thanks.
My actual personal Sub Club programs overview charts are much more complex and filled with a lot more info, more discernment, many more personal factors that are relevant for me etc. For the sake of this conversation and in order to convey my point here I simplified the chart by at least 95% from what I usually use for my decisions.
Furthermore, I have not used all programs myself and thus can only speculate about many things and there are for sure some errors in the chart above. I therefore highly recommend that everyone make they own overviews for themselves and through this study the various products. It is a discovery process of what one really wants, what is available and how to plan one’s stack.
My idea for now is to cycle between a “passive attraction stack” and a “taking action attraction stack”. That is, at least, until all the wealth programs get their ZP V2 Max upgrades which may happen rather sooner than later lol…
Passive attraction stack (mystery & lust aura): WB + KB4 + Libertine
Taking action attraction stack (sexual & social dominance): KB4 + Khan4 + PS
share it with us
My sense is the only reason your concerned about this, IS because your running Khan. Haha. I’ve never heard you prioritize or even care about woman compared to your other goals before.
I find Khan WAY better than WB for actually being with and fucking woman. The month I ran Khan Stage 1 -I have multiple- hyper sexual encounters with woman I am attracted to, and they worshipped me. RONW helped but Khan led the way. I’ve tested WB and gotten incredible attention, manifested some very beautiful woman but nothing close to the quick results of Khan of getting down and dirty. WB I find it hard to actually engage woman- when I do there very flirty and playful- but it’s a harder energy for me to work with.
That said -if I ran WB for a month who knows what would happen. But I liked Khan more for my other goals. WB is too social and I throw my discipline out the window on it.
I want someone to find a way to measure aura output out of aura subliminals… in dragon ball z terms
Lmaooo that would be amazing wouldn’t it?
Yeah true haha girls are still not at the top of my priority list. Just would be nice tbh
Why KBst4 not st3? In your experience st4 is more potent than st4?
I don’t think this is a good idea because all of my charts are based on my understanding and my personal subjective perception filters, which is not 100% true to what the products really are. My perception is biased just like everyone else’s is and I don’t want people then to use my charts for their decisions and then blame me or the Sub Club team for any misinformation errors.
Instead, people should do their own research and try to understand what the products do by themselves. In the end, only Saint and Fire know what is truly inside the products and the official product descriptions are the best source for everyone to get their info from. Thanks for understanding.
KB4 brings the first 3 stages into a nice working harmony together.
Of course, before you jump onto KB4 you should have used KB1 and KB2 for at least 1 cycle each.
Wanted black just isn’t for me man…
Khan just turns me into an absolute badass who doesnt give a fuck which I enjoy more tbh
I wonder if you have an updated version of this list with more modern updated versions of each sub
It has something to do with exposure and experienced. I read some are listening to PS, WB, KB, or K with no promising results.
It is best not to jump right away, take it slow and one at a time.
It could be PS + LBFH or Love Bomb.
Or do it with Khan stage 1 alone and work your way to the stages. Then try WB.
In Khan you don’t need to know how to approach women and you can have as many as you like. And just make it temporary.
In WB it isn’t just attraction they will fall for you. So be careful.
Idk for me Khan brought me the most results everytime I run it
Khan q gave me a good start back in the day, but two cycles each stage were not enough for me