Don’t be weird man, cmon…. “I envy people who get results?” Are you silly!? That is the dumbest thing you can say on this forum when you haven’t even tried to run the program and journal changes for a cycle
Your thread started slow and ended up looking like some bait to try and feed your lazy approach towards subs: and it’s not even appreciated to the slightest, @Spartanx even hand picked and pulled results for you from all over the forum only for you to deem yourself some type of hard gainer who struggles like cmon ! You didn’t even try them
Do yourself and others a favor, try the program before you deem yourself a failure, it’s extremely insulting to both those who go out of their way to help you and also those who actually go forward and take massive steps to get results
Like buying a program, running it… journaling the changes
Nobody on this forum appreciates your “envy” mate, and nobody wants to look at you like a victim
Thanks for helping @Spartanx