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Sanguine and GLM are changing me slowly and gradually into a man who deals with other’s negativity in a similar manner like the one below:
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The recon is slight and manageable even though I run two rounds every day, which is 4 loops every other day (Sanguine+GLM), and 2 loops on the other day (WB). There are no signs of overload so far. The only noticeable change is my dreams’ number and their dynamic level, which increased quite a lot.

In those dreams of mine, I display mental and behavioural patterns relevant to the scripting, like being more cool and relaxed (Sanguine), more decisive and firm (GLM), and more seductive (WB).

The results are consistent and satisfactory. WB shines whenever there are manifestation pathways.

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I’m going to go against the “orthodoxy” to tap into the true spirit of SC, which is experimenting.

Upon @James’s recent “experiments” I got to the assumption that recon is triggered rather by the amount of the scripting (the scripting’s total lenght/breadth) you’re exposed to within a narrow time frame than the amount of your subliminal input (the exposure time), although the latter counts as well.

Another thing is the fact that running the scripting when getting recon usually alleviates it, which is ascribed to “going back” to the “subliminal queue”, going back to the processing phase, or something of that sort while I got to the assumption that it’s because of reinforcing the scripting in reconciling the “more stubborn subconscious structures.”

One more thing is going against microlooping which seems to me to mainly elicit temporary and superficial results and requires much more time to help more substantial shifts.

To work upon both assumptions, I’ll be running 3 loops of one sub a day, taking breaks only when having the symptoms of overload. I’ll be running the loops at three different times of the day; after waking up, after work, and before going to bed.

I want to see how it goes in terms of recon and the most profound shifts.

Let’s see how I get… fucked. :grinning:


Today I ran three loops of WB, and I didn’t get even the slightest recon or any symptoms of overload. I feel way more grounded “in the scripting” and it looks like the deeper subconscious structures are being reconciled swiftly. It’s just a feeling, however, although I see the scripting being executed more effectively when it comes to my demeanor and how I’m responding to events within my reality.

I’ll be running Sanguine on the morrow. Three loops. Let’s see how it goes.

Again, my approach is to tackle more stubborn subconscious structures via more exposure to the same scripting yet, at the same time, avoid unpleasant symptoms of reconciliation by running one title a day which narrows the length of the scripting I’m exposed to within a narrow time frame.


FUCK ME. The manifestations are skyrocketing like they would on the WANTED prototype that served as the base for the ZP v.1.

Suddenly there’s a lot of attractive ladies around me wherever I go.

I’m going to apply my approach, I described above, to running WB alone, as WB covers self-regulation (I chose Sanguine for) and masculine traits enhancement (I chose GLM for) anyway, and for the sake of testing my approach this move is really favorable.

These are the advantages of that adjustment to my approach:

  1. a lower breadth of the scripting I’m exposed to,
  2. more exposure to the same scripting that should make tackling the more stubborn subconscious structures even more effective,
  3. easier recon and overload management,
  4. more accurate progress tracking,
  5. more accurate and valid insights on the approach.
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I ran a loop of WB in the morning.

I feel really grounded in “the reality projected through the lenses of WB”, and the recon (in the from of social discomfort), I got in the morning, was really minimal and short-lived (much slighter and shorter than usual) - it lasted for around two minutes maybe. I can only describe how WB is affecting me now in really metaphorical and subjective terms; now it’s like holding WB like a tool whilst in the past it was more like scratching its surface only.

I’ll be listening to the two more loops later on; after work and before going to bed.


I’m posting both assumptions, I’m working with, combined and refined, yet again:

When it comes to getting recon, I believe that the breadth of the scripting (the number of the titles and their scripting total length/or the total scope of the objectives/or both) matters way more than the exposure time, therefore, the narrower the breadth, the less we’re prone to recon, and when it comes to the results, the higher exposure time (of course its limit should be reaching our sweet spot) and the narrower the breadth of the scripting, the better results.
I also believe that higher amounts of exposure are necessary to tackle more stubborn subconscious structures, and, perhaps, narrower/more focused scripting would come in really handy.

I’m not going to be original and I’ll call my approach BATTERING RAM. Fuck subtleties and fancy words.


I’m listening to the third loop now. The last loop today. I’ve been feeling amazing, almost like a demi-god since I ran the second loop three hours ago. Pretty much as good as when I was testing the “successful” prototype of WANTED.

Every inch of my body, every piece of my mind is undoubtedly and undeniably my authentic self. I feel totally complete and as if I held all the pieces of the jigsaw I am in my very hand. There’s nothing more to add to me, nothing I couldn’t change to my liking in my jigsaw. Men are responding to me with respect, women with interest or pretended indifference. Cool.

The power of the subconscious focus is outstanding and profoundly empowering.

Also tapping into my shadow is almost like breathing, I don’t have to give it any thought to live it. Let’s live it then!

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Excited to see the results of the testing here, keep em coming :muscle:

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Incoming wall approaching at a fast speed.

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Thanks. Surely, I’ll be posting them here.

Keep your wisdom to yourself. I don’t need it. Although, thanks for your concern. I’m going to be fine… and hopefully, GREAT, as that’s the main goal of testing the BATTERING RAM approach.

It’s about battering the gateways (the most stubborn/resistant ones) not the walls, anyway. :grinning:


I’m running two loops this morning. I’m going to stick to four loops a day.

Two loops after waking up, one after work and one before going to bed.


Last night, my lover looked at me as if I was an angel. With utter awe and admiration. That was cute! She also tried to lure me into a more “serious relationship” but ultimately she said between the lines that our current relationship was what she wanted.


The internal changes are profound and just toothsome. The cool, self-assurance, masculine vibe, feeling complete are priceless. There’s no recon whatsoever, only slight “regressions” to the “old frame” which are really rare and short-lived.

I’ll be running two more loops today; one after work and the other before going to bed.


No one can make this better. Take control; it’s now or never.


I don’t feel like the old me anymore but like a “demon”, the level of my self-alignment in me is otherworldly. One loop left to go today.

I’m starting to see a pattern when it comes to how the scripting affects me throughout the day in terms of the execution but I think it’s too early to share it.

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Do you think this happens because those women’s egos are triggered and they don’t like it that all of a sudden they have to do the chasing instead of them being chased by a guy they want?

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I sense that to them it’s something like trying to communicate to you; it’s me who is sexy in here, not you, you’re not even worthy of looking at you (since that would confirm their interest in you and the fact that you’re sexy). It’s like they thought they hold a validation you need and pretended you don’t deserve it and refusing to grant it to you to make you feel bad about yourself - oh no, I’m not sexy, she didn’t even look at me. Of course, it’s bs since you don’t give a fuck, knowing you’re sexy, knowing your worth. It may be some kind of projection; projecting their main insecurity on you to feel better about themselves. They envy me that I’m sexy and I KNOW it whilst they’re insecure.

I’ve seen some women that tried to hide their interest, too. Lot’s of them.

Anyway, none of them can lie to me. I’m an empath, and really good on top of that. I can “smell” their petty, little hearts with ease…


I’m running the fourth loop now. It feels good. I feel bliss in my chest. I love the scripting, obviously. :grinning: I’m a fucking beast…

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so you are running WB solo…four loop a day ?and you could take it without overload ?interesting …… :smiley:

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Would be curious to hear how the physical shifting in LOTS stacks up against WB for you. Body sculpting and overall sexiness.

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Yes, yes and yes, sir. :grinning:

No idea, I don’t sculpt my body. All I do is running four times a week.

Yet, I can tell that LotS is more effective when it comes to fat burning, regeneration, stamina and motivation to engage in physical activities, whilst WB makes me more creative when it comes to the way I dress up, my grooming and styling.

PM Invictus, he used both subs for a long time for body sculpting. You can also find some of his post about that on the forums, mate.

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I’m making amazing progress when it comes to developing my masculine traits and how I communicate with people or, I would rather say, how I “aim my words at” people, persuading and influencing them with ease. Putting them under my spell is like breathing. I can easily use my shadow in an “enigmatic” and inconspicuous way when interacting with people, and that helps me influence them or put them under my spell a lot.

Creating a social persona that suits me and the situation I am in is becoming my second nature. It’s like becoming a highly proficient actor who can easily switch between various roles when needed. Just switching my masks at will:

I’m also becoming formless and enigmatic. I speak in a direct manner way less and just drop some casual hints on people that bypass their “rational” filters and reach the deeper levels. I’m becoming somewhat hypnotic in my speech and body language.

I’m getting more connected to who I really am, and I’m tapping into my capacities (aimed by the scripting) more and more each passing day.

The only recon are really slight and transient “regressions” to my “old self”, that get easily overcome by my realizing it and just switching my focus to going the “opposite direction.”

I ran two loops after waking up. Two more left; one after work and the other before going to bed.

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so this is the first time you use this listening method or you tried it before with the previous versions of sub ?will it still be usable with the earlier version….I noticed that the NSE version subs are much more smooth and light to the mind…the integration process is not as hard as the previous one…do you think that is the main reason that you could exposure your to that high amount of inputs and still get pretty good result ? :smiley:

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Yes, that’s the first time I’m testing out this listening approach (the battering ram approach). I explained why I decided to apply it in one of the previous posts. However, all of those reasons are only my assumptions based on other people’s experiences, my own and my observations. I’ve been applying this approach for four days only.

I can tell that there is some pattern I see but it’s too soon to publish it, I need more time for observing it. However, I can tell that thanks to the battering ram approach “subliminal momentum” is consistent and causes “subliminal snowball effect” where the shifts are built one upon another really quickly (so far). From simple yet essential towards more advanced.

However, mind that it’s not only that approach to subliminal input usage but the whole framework I’ve been developing for some time, and that framework is vital, I BELIEVE. I described my framework in this journal (the framework is comprised of the highest alignment and the least resistance path and the missing links approach). I’m going to present all of it when I’m ready.

No idea. Probably because of my framework and all the work I’ve done with the previous subs. However, the new tech matters, for sure. Yet, mind that it’s only one script (WB) I’m exposed to and one of my assumptions (my battering ram approach stems from) is that recon is caused rather by the breadth (scope) of the scripting (the number of titles you’re running, the total length and complexity of the scripting) than the exposure time.

To sum it up. It’s too early to answer this question without a shadow of a doubt, mate.

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Limitless can be regarded as a booster it will enhance the effects of our majors in your stack.

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The recon has the same nature; these are transient “regressions” to certain patterns of my old self. It’s like my mind has some kind of expectations that those patterns are going to occur in certain situations since they’re so deeply ingrained in it. It’s like with those people who’s just recently lost their hand (let’s say) and they find themselves trying to use it unwittingly whilst it’s not there anymore. That’s not the best example I suppose but I really can’t find any better.

However, upon getting reinforcement, in the form of relevant experiences and responding to them in alignment with the scripting, those “regressions” get resolved instantly. For example, if my social uneasiness comes back (I “regress” to it), when I get into interacting with people and I see (I experience) how the scripting is guiding me through the interaction, making me do so like a boss, that feeling (“regression”) gets resolved instantly and I see a huge boost in my results.

@AnswerGroup Maybe it will interest you.


I’m running the fourth loop… I’ve started getting recon on the deeper levels where it concerns “existential issues”. The cry of the soul… questioning the very point of my existence, the path I’m following or rather, like now, feeling as if my life was pathless. On the other hand, there’s a joy in it, total trust in myself and the process, and knowing that “everything gonna be alright” no matter what. The dark night shall pass… and at the dawn I will become One.


I’m like new today. So eager to go about my day and see what it brings. Good.

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I see how WB is tackling more and more advanced concepts that get reconciled with some really stubborn/resistant subconscious structures of mine, shifting them in the process. Batter-ramming them with higher levels of subliminal input helps a lot since it reinforces the reconciliation “in my favor”, meaning, instead of getting the most common unpleasant symptoms of reconciliation, the whole process gets smoothed out. The key is to spot those moments when the subliminal reinforcement is needed and aid my subconscious mind in handling the reconciliation. On the other hand, my listening pattern comes in handy, preventing those symptoms from occurring and makes the reconciliation smooth sailing, so there’s no real need to be so meticulous when it comes to the exposure times.

It seems to me that reconciliation occurs when the subconscious is being introduced to more advanced concepts (more advanced than the concepts your subconscious can process with ease), concepts that need to get reconciled with relevant subconscious structures that seem to be “stubborn/resistant” due to “not being ready” for so profound shifts. What helps is pushing through with the subliminal input and taking action or/and getting exposed to experiences that trigger reconciliation and just handling them, not avoiding them.

Face your inner demons or who you really are and what you’re truly capable of will perish into OBLIVION.


My understanding of seduction and relationships with women has skyrocketed upon recent relevant experiences of mine and relevant knowledge I’ve accumulated for years. Everything relevant has suddenly started “clicking” in my mind. The power of insights and conscious shifts is INSANE.

Another thing is the scripting related to embracing myself as I am yet, at the same time, striving for excellence is just BRILLIANT. Not accepting my flaws has been the most detrimental thing to my self-development since it would demotivate and drain me. Not anymore!

I’ve cleaned up my room (I had been procrastinating for two weeks lol) and finally made the final strokes to my wardrobe., getting rid of the last unWANTED clothes.

I did two loops after waking up. Two more loops to go today. It’s day 6 of my “test”.

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I’m doing 3 titles currently but will try your experiment but with EOG1

I’ll start with 2 loops of EOG1 every day for now, we’ll see what happens. But your results are very interesting!

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The battering ram approach is working beautifully. Today I experienced the most powerful INSTANT mental shift in my life and although I’ve run WB in the past it happened only now.

After running the fourth loop today and getting out, I realized that all my social uneasiness stems from how I was treated (and severely traumatized) by my father when I was a little kid. I would always be hyper-aware of my surroundings (especially at home) and especially in his presence, always feeling anxious and expecting of him to get angry all of a sudden and hurt me. I was also hyper-sensitive to all that emotional abuse, noticing all the psychological and physiological changes happening in me.

Later on, in primary and secondary school, I felt in a very similar way wherever I went. Expecting of people to get hostile and hurt me. And when they did I would totally shut in in my inner world, suffering all that emotional damage even though, on the outside, I was ICE ICE COLD…

Upon realizing all of that, I spontaneously invented a self-soothing technique that puts me at ease instantly whenever there’s even the slightest trace of upcoming social uneasiness. I got to it starting with the sound my grandma would make to put my little sister asleep. I modified it, and I just focus on breathing out the air, slowing it down and intensifying it a bit, making a really low sound. I took a walk passing by people one by one, and used that technique every time when needed and I felt ZERO of that social uneasiness. ABSOLUTE ZERO.

For the whole walk I felt the “ICE” in me for the first time in my life. That ICE that helped me survive all that abuse. The ICE in my soul. The ICE that would numb my mind and freeze my heart after every hurt so that there was the pain no more.That ICE was my only strength, my only shield, my salvation. Now, I finally feel it coursing in my veins and permeating my mind. It’s in my heart, in my mind in my very soul. The ICE is ME.

There’s no other way to express that. POWERFUL, POWERFUL SHIFT. I almost had tears in my eyes when I felt it and realized that it had been me all along, yet only now I truly felt it and embraced it.

I knew something BIG was coming because of yesterday’s “existential recon”, yet I didn’t expect it would be so PROFOUND and POWERFUL.


WB is a spiritual sub indeed. The inner transformation is just mind-blowing.

Thank you for WB and all your work, @AnswerGroup

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MY FRAMEWORK
Although, I’ve been applying the subliminal input approach mentioned above (the battering ram approach = listening to one sub solely every day and to multiple loops, in my case four) for one week only, I’ve been working with the other elements of my framework for months now. The results had been great till I applied the battering ram approach, and then they just skyrocketed.

I call my framework - “the ice cold touch”. :snowflake:

Apart from the higher exposure amount, it’s about being focused on working with only one sub because that focus helps tackle more stubborn/resistant subconscious structures/patterns way more effectively and get to our Zero Point way swifter.

When it comes to choosing a sub it’s about going with the one that is aligned with who we think/intuit we really are (with what we really want, what we feel destined for, what resonates with us the most) and our best natural capabilities (what we know/intuit we’re capable of doing the best as it stems from our proclivities and talents). On top of that, the sub should offer targeting the most essential missing links in the chain of our self-development to who (or who we think/intuit) we really are and what (or what we think/intuit) we are really capable of.

Then we need to work towards opening pathways to manifestation to help our subconscious mind guide us throughout our development. To open them, we need to take action that provides us with relevant (to the scripting) experiences and here is when the REAL MAGIC (Mental Alchemy = reconciling) happens since the scripting guides us through them changing us internally (our subconscious structures/patterns) and externally (our life circumstances) the most. The most optimal approach is opening those pathways to manifestation that offer the least resistance since that helps us build up momentum really fast and creates the snowball effect, leading to opening more pathways to manifestation fairly swiftly.

Why the “ice cold touch”? It’s about the process of crystallization.

Cold temperatures will slow water molecules way, way down. They slow down so much that, once they hit 32°F/O°C, they hook onto one another, forming a solid crystal.

In the same manner, using the ice cold touch framework, we “slow down” the targeted subconscious structures/patterns by becoming extremely subconsciously (by the subliminal input) and consciously (opening the pathways of manifestation) focused on them so that they hook onto one another, forming a solid crystal = the REFLECTION of our Zero Point.

Besides I like ice, you know. :snowflake:

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