I find it funny when I think about how we are able to just drop where we started from. That is, completely disregard and forget about and just focus and run towards where we want to go.
Yet, this shows up, the starting point. I have a decent understanding of science (I believe), but is it as much about the starting point or just how much you are willing to discard the starting point entirely?
ASBR again I think lol.
Would the stack not work, though? There are two physical shifting cores. Legacy of The Spartan if attraction isn’t the main goal.
I see you typing there 
Go on, don’t hesitate, we’re all cool here 
. You can message as well. I’m open to all ideas.
Interesting, that’s more of a result than I ever got out of YouTube subs lol. The only physical shifting SubClub deals with is making your existing features more attractive, as that’s honestly the most realistic and fastest acting goal for physical shifting and the one that can advance your overall life the furthest using the “halo effect” where good looks will tend to bring success in other areas of life, opening doors that would remain closed to a less attractive version of you.
Perhaps a custom with every physical shifting module, eye/gaze -related module, NPSE, and MDFY Conscious Guidance to target the specific change would be the best shot using subclub tech.
Awesome.
I feel you’ve hit the nail right on the head. With SubClub the change is me, I am the initiator. I am me and the sub enhances me. I feel the subs work with me.
I can’t say that about anything else tbh. Works with me to the level of the subs? Maybe someone that “gets” all my nuances?
YT, I have never run it long to get results, but I can confidently say that they aren’t safe. Why? Because I regress and do things I wouldn’t do. I become someone else. That means it isn’t working with me. Which is fine, and I get as to how your mind can be expanded into becoming someone new, but that takes time, energy, and to state it again - it just simply takes time.
Once I realised just how limited time we have, SubClub’s approach feels the most right. Because frankly, I can’t rebuild myself piece by piece and have the same experience as being enhanced and growing into who I want to be as well.
YT brute forces. SubClub is like the air, the ocean, it flows, it adapts.
Your suggestions are taken. It’s true, I’ve gotten opportunities simply because of looks alone. Enhancing it will pay well, no doubts!
Exactly. Obviously we’ll never know the exact script, but I believe (especially ZP) communicates with the subconscious as an instructor would to a student, asking us questions and guiding us towards finding answers that align with our unique selves. As opposed to most other subliminals which are the equivalent of bashing our heads in with “I am” affirmations that give no further guidance to the subconscious.
Potentially any physical shifting title can be consciously guided for any potential goals. So if you really, really, really wanted to… No one is going to stop you.
However… why?
There are so many better things to use your energy and focus on, and even the simplest aura would give significantly more benefit than trying to change your eye color for the purposes of attraction - which is the usual reason for wanting to change one’s eye color.
And of course, the usual response to this from the communities where eye changing is popular - the subconscious/energy around us is infinite, so why not?
I’ll explain - energy might be infinite around you, but your personal one isn’t. It takes time to make the energy around you convert into one that is properly useable by you. As for the subconscious - if this was the case, there would be no need for subliminal technology.
Both of these beliefs are very surface level ideas taken from new age beliefs, with their actual deeper meanings from the traditions they were taken from removed.
Everything has a price. Make sure you’re making good deals.
I can focus on my finger for 10 seconds and have it buzzing with energy. Does this mean my finger is growing?
No.
Surface level phenomena like tingles don’t matter. Results are the metric to follow.
If you’re looking to experiment in consciously guiding a sub towards this, Chosen would be the one for it. It has:
- Physical shifting to manifest your goals: charismatic, piercing eyes; powerful, yet inspiring voice; strong, but assuring body language, etc.
It doesn’t specify an eye color, for pretty obvious reasons 
I reflected back on the last one year. I can so clearly see the person that I am today as a result of my thoughts, beliefs, and actions, that it hit me like an arrow. I look back and wonder, what if I had trusted myself ALL the way? Etc…
I remember skepticism harming my results. If I had believed all the way… that just got me curious about eye colour changing (could be green, grey, any).
Yup. Given the energy requirements and my lack of training in that area, and my goals, not going for eye colour change. Besides, will I really have profound change if my only reasoning is why not? And not a strong desire? Probably not.
Yes 
True. This was me 2 years ago, on YT Subs. I got tingles, nothing changed. On SubClub I never got tingles, but my beard grew fuller, my hair got longer, and my… yes.
Weirdly enough, my eyes are bluer than before. Used to be more grey.
Never been thinking about it. But a year ago my wife asked me if my eyes were blue before.
And now that I look in the mirror, they are more blue than grey. Probably a natural change, I believe the eyes change over time and age is now affecting my eyesight.
However, the change also coincidentally fits in with my run of spiritual subs.
Who knows…
Yes, my experience is as well that eye color can change naturally.
I used to have dark brown eyes. A couple of years ago I started with sun gazing (during winter). When I met my fiancee a couple of years later she said she liked my light brown eyes with the green sprinkles.
I was dumbfounded at first, but then did some research and found anecdotal evidence that sun gazing can brighten your eyes. Almost like the brown is just in the way, then sun clears it up and then you can see the true eye color.
Never started sun gazing again though.
But perhaps I might this winter… If I remember
Nice thread actually, physical shifting subs have shown me actually how changeable our body is compared to what we’re told, I’ve seen insane physical changes since starting and cellular level evolutions .
Just got me thinking, two days, 34 posts, ASBR manifesting 
Is it possible with Zero Point? Perhaps. [EDIT: We have never tried to accomplish this. Seems a bit too “vain” and more like a parlor trick. I simply can’t excited enough to even consider how we’d even do it.]
Here’s the issue: the nature of the Zero Point scripting would first bring into the conscious mind why you’d even want to change your eye color (even if the outward expression is “I’m just curious”), and if you aren’t being honest with yourself, would attempt to resolve that first.
I suspect that with an “eye color changing” title, we’d end up with a bunch of people instead being more comfortable with who they are on all levels and abandoning the title, rofl.
Yup this has happened before lol
I was thinking of eye colour like changing outfits. Still sounds intriguing to my mind. Maybe I’ll try it out one day.
Reminds me of people running WB only to notice that they crave a fulfilling relationship more than anything else.
But that wouldn’t be to bad either.
Would it have been easier with Q?
And if, would that mean with ZPU it would be easier as well?
Yup. 5char!
No way. I’ll definitely message him. Thanks!