i went straight to HOM and closed 28 out of 30 deals (17 in a row, twice) when i made the switch
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@Jouissance im interested as to why you didn’t decide to progress to the latter stages considering how profound of an impact it made for you.
But thanks I’m going to follow that suggestion.
Starting Monday my stack will be
EoG stage 1
Genesis
Paragon healing
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HOM just worked so well, and in my head I considered EOG 4 and HOM equivalent as “complete” wealth subs, interchangeable depending on your goals.
I have a gf who i want to have kids with so the family scripting in HOM and the direct sales boost in HOM was extremely interesting.
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What are your thoughts on running EoG1 with Emperor and LBFH in a stack?
I can tell it’s dense, but imagine it’ll be great once it got some momentum going.
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Don’t start all 3 at once. But it’d be a great stack
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I just started a new journal - bought a HOM/PCC custom… and after a while, gonna go through the EOG stages along side it.
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I’m looking forward to trying HoM 2-3 months down the line
Thanks for the suggestions
My first full loop of Genesis seems to have guided me to work toward buying Quantum Limitless instead of Khan Black
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@Jouissance
From my personal experience there is a certain level of permenance to subs, and the manifestations you acquired while on it you keep with you. I do however feel like when a sub is currently being run actively in your stack it potentiates it more.
Im curious on your thoughts and experience of the lasting effects of EoG stage 1 even after stopping. You mentioned in your journal that you miss it. You also recommended to continue to run your previous sub alongside a new sub instead of stopping it. Do you feel like it loses its continual effect if stopped? I’d love to hear your analysis on the topic of subs and permanence
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I still want to read about someone or anyone getting results from EOG.
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Could you clarify what you mean by this just so I’m sure we’re on the same page?
I believe you may be referring to my reference of this support article
Not “my recommendation”
why are the current results posted on EOG from multiple people not good enough for you?
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agreed. but i want to continually break past my plateaus and continually find myself 2x or 3x better than I was in the recent past. That’s why my name is ouroboros. “Constant Rebirth.”
I think if you stop running a sub, you’ll maintain 80% of those results, but they’ll become susceptible to atrophy as a result of negative societal conditioning… the same conditioning that brought you to the level of pre-subliminal mindset in the first place.
I like to think of subliminals as protective against societal conditioning, as well as conducive towards the conditioning you’d rather have.
If you were to stop listening to a subliminal, the conditioning you received would stay, but the scales would start to tip back towards societal conditioning which you are (over)exposed to as a member of planet earth, therefore, you would slowly change over time back to a version of you slightly more like the old one than the new one.
You = Subliminal Scripting + Societal Scripting + True Self
True self will always be there, but I’d rather have as much subliminal scripting and as little societal scripting influencing my true self as possible.
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Sure, I was referring to your first paragraph on your review about Genesis
Thoughts on Genesis overall
The one thing about Genesis is that running SOLO Genesis was very bad for my work flow and productivity. I was not selling as well as I was used to, nor working as hard as I was used to.
This wasn’t because Genesis was bad, it was just because HOM was amazing and I stopped running hom.
Simple solution is to run your favorite sub PLUS genesis, however, I wanted to test out the hypothesis that Genesis might help you “maintain the results of other subliminals” which I found to be not true.
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AH, my lack of results in sales with genesis.
A few factors.
- i drastically reduced my wealth subliminal input by switching from HOM to genesis
- i drastically reduced my conscious wealth effort by going on vacation
- Genesis was hitting me with some healing that I didn’t even really feel fully until a week into the washout… so, there was some healing-induced short-term effects as well.
If I had added/maintained HOM, my results would probably have been better, but that was an observation in hindsight, not necessarily my recommendation.
My recommendation, I guess, is that if a subliminal is working, DONT STOP RUNNING IT… I really need to learn that lesson for myself lol
Same applies to stacks, because this whole logic of “now that I feel amazing on my stack, I’m going to change my stack, and then I’ll feel perfect!!!” is absolutely wrong. Guys all the time go from amazing stacks to terrible stacks thinking their new stack will be perfect. Guys running Wanted are getting obsessed with fitness and MAJOR results in fitness, so they ruin everything by switching it up to EMP FIT.
Wealth guys like myself are finally feeling social because their long-standing history of not feeling like they (not feeling like I) had the money to be/do everything they (I) wanted is finally diminishing, THANKS to the wealth subs, but then instead of sticking to the wealth subs that are giving me that comfort in the first place, I switch subs to genesis.
Things like that
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That’s what I think too, due to its characteristics in my opinion it is perfect to combine with any sub; in fact i was thinking of combining it in september with khan, or at least it seems genesis is leading me down that path
I would add on to that recommendation to start with 1 loop per week of Genesis to see how the processing, and the execution, but most importantly the BLOOM effects you, because this bloom is unlike any other ZP product i’ve ever run
I agree @Jouissance , and I believe this to be the case as the area becomes less of a “pain” point and we perhaps we start shining our attention on other areas.
For me its tricky, because my areas of scope are multifaceted. I LOVE wanted and Khan for masculinity and aeshetic, but I really need money right now and my health is shaky, so I switched and its paid off. But I do want to revisit both of them.
Im thinking making a custom I could combine both Wanted and Khan cores into 1. What are your thoughts on that?
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