Ok so hear me out. It sounds like you’re not connecting with the more laidback approach of WB. Maybe a custom with Khan that helps bring about something similar to harem scripting would help more and cut down on your stack. I think you’re right in your situation 2 customs might serve you better. One for tweaking Khan to the exact specifics of what you want and another for the wealth area. I would say if you just used Khan Black in a custom you could drop Khan too. The modules are really flexible and it seems like your situation is a good use case for them.
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Yeah I’m a big believer in sticking with a sub for at least 3 cycles to see real change because real change requires real time.
The fact that you can run one sub indefinitely and experience new changes constantly is a hint to me that the deepest change comes from consistency…
There has to be a reason the following is on every sales page…
"Listing all potential avenues of growth and benefits is simply impossible – but through experience with the subliminal and introspection you can grasp the overall growth direction of the subliminal. Always remember that you are a unique individual with your very own journey, history and life, and our subliminals take that as well as your conscious guidance into account and work with you and who you truly are. In other words, even if an objective/feature/benefit that you want is not listed on the page, it does not mean you won’t experience it as long as the topic of the subliminal is connected to the desired effect…
" Finally, there are countless more benefits and features to discover with each subliminal – each subliminal is so much more than a simple list"
If you constantly switch subs theres no way your giving the sub enough time to fully express itself uniquely through you…thats why up to a certain point I think it can be bad to base your decision on what a sub is like by other peoples description…that can help give a broad overview to make the intial decision but I think its wrong to accept another persons experience as gospel truth of what a sub will do for you or how it will manifest itself in your life.
What i do to resist switching is read the sales page of the sub I have chosen over and over again…as well as the objectives…the technique in the masterclass to imagine how the sub could help achieve the objectives also is nice I like to write it out…so like writing how the sub could help achieve my specific goals…basic stuff to get the juices flowing like.how does the wanted man make money?
(I did not mean to make this a specific reply to saintspring my bad bro.)
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This has always been the cool part to me with these subs. They pretty much grow with you and adapt. It almost seems limitless how far the growth is.
In other words, even if an objective/feature/benefit that you want is not listed on the page, it does not mean you won’t experience it as long as the topic of the subliminal is connected to the desired effect…
I definitely overlooked this. Good catch.
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Urges for subhopping is normal. I read somewhere that it can be a symptom of recon so just have faith in your initial choices and see it through.
when you find a perfect stack, you won’t re-evaluate it, you will stick it.
tell us, what’s your problem with finding a perfect title? what’s your goal though? what do you want to accomplish?
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The stack has never been the answer. Your action, focus, commitment, and drive to get things done will always be the answer. The stack helps you get into the optimal internal alignment but it’s still up to you to DO THE WORK.
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I never believed this until just recently.
Currently on New Emperor + LBFH and its so fucking smooth, I wanna run this forever.
I’m pretty happy with my stack right now and it’s inline with my goals. It’s just these intrusive thoughts that pop in that are exhausting. That’s really it. If I entertain them too much I start thinking about changing the stack up again or building another custom.
But that’s oversimplifying things. If you were working on becoming a wealthy business person you wouldn’t run something like Ultimate Artist.
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Yes that’s true, but I think his point is don’t focus too much on the stack but rather focus on action.
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I have been jumping from sub to sub for a long time, and honestly im very satisfied with my results. Most stacks i stick with for 2/3 months (not counting multistagers ofcourse) and at that point in satisfied with my results. And than at a later point i may go back when i feel i need more results in that direction of my life.
I find this a good approach for me as i dont necessairly have any huge goals and am more
Looking for subs that can generally improve my life (wich they definitely have), and my needs change depending on a lot of factors. I would never use a sub for a single cycle though, imo a sub doesnt really start to work well untill the second cycle, and only at that point can you properly judge the effects.
I have in the past spend a longer time on a singulair sub (ran wanted for a year), that approach definitely has its benefits, but the thing is i dont think any sub is truly perfect for me. They all have their benefits and negatives. For instance, after having done wanted for a year, i saw incredible benefits, but those results got unlocked wayyy more when i started running heartsong later on. This is presumably because that sub fits me more than wanted did.
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Even if you make and sell art? Even if you’re in filmmaking? Even if you’re a graphic designer? Even if you’re in music production?
If your business has artistic components , UA has a place in your stack.
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Am I oversimplifying or are you overcomplicating things?
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Identify your goal
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Pick the right subs for that goal
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Stay focused and take action
What else do you need?
Do you realize that one of the main reasons for recon is people doing #1 and #2 but not doing #3? Then they blame the stack for their lack of results. 
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Well that’s what I’m saying. If your business doesn’t have artistic components to it UA wouldn’t be useful in your stack. So the idea of the stack not being the answer isn’t the whole picture. My point is, it’s nuanced. Yeah I’m splitting hairs here, you may ask “why the hell would someone not into artistic things run UA?” But realistically some people do not know what they want or they think they know so the stack does matter.
Goals can constantly shift as limiting beliefs are removed and things come to light. What was originally an ideal stack is re-evaluated under a different lens.
I’m not here to prove right or wrong. I just came for open discussion on something I struggle with and was collecting everyone else’s views. If you want to see that as overcomplicating things that’s fine. I’ll consider that too.
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How do you know if your stack is the right one if you don’t take action and stay consistent for awhile to give the stack a chance to do what it’s suppose to do? Before Sub Club had all those great wealth subs (EOG, HoM, RICH for example), people ran the early version of Ascension or Emperor and built wealth and businesses. Now that we have all those subs, there are people who have ran all sorts of wealth subs but didn’t achieve anything. I was one of those. At some point you have to take action in the real world. Someone can run EOG + RICH + HoM and take insufficient or inconsistent action and will most likely have poor results. Another person can just run Ascension and take solid action and create massive wealth. The best crafted stack is worthless without consistent action.
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I’m not in disagreement there. I don’t actually sub hop or switch up my stack other than maybe altering a third title that I felt was too demanding.
But don’t you think having a stack that opens the doors to more action is important too? So if someone runs something like Phoenix and that helps them bridge the gap towards action, I think that’s pretty significant and important. Action is such a vague term that gets thrown around here. What do you consider action?
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You didn’t ask me, but here’s my definition to consistent action regarding the sub goals:
By taking this set of action you would reach the same goal, with or without running the sub, eventually.
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It comes down to self-knowledge. If you’re dealing with a ton of limiting beliefs, negative self-talk, and money trauma why would you run a money-making subs? Run a healing stack first! Only you can tell what you need. You have to be honest with yourself. I remember running HoM before I was ready, it sent me straight into massive recon. I had to go back and run EOG1 and LBFH for months before I was in a place where money subs wouldn’t beat me up so hard and I started getting results. One quality I know I have is that I don’t lie to myself. If I’m not ready for a sub, I know I’m not ready.
I remember having legendary amounts of procrastination and self-sabotage, to the point where it destroyed my business and I lost my clients. I was one of those guys looking for the perfect stack but not taking consistent action. It got me nowhere. Only when I decided to do something about my limiting beliefs and I stayed on EOG1 and LBFH for months that procrastination started to disappear. I still have my battles with procrastination but it’s nowhere near the complete immobilism I used to experience. There is no perfect stack, the best stack for you is the one that gets you in enough alignment to take action and get results.
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Good way to put it. I think these subs help us prevent the long detours that can come about when not maximizing your subconscious potential.
Good stuff. Admittedly I’m not a fan of healing subs. That moment where I can say “ok that’s enough” never comes or it’s not clearly defined for me. How did you know when it was time to step away from your healing stage to move onto the other subs you initially wanted to run?
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There is not a moment where you would be completely healed of everything. I believe that you only need to heal enough to get and stay in action mode. Staying in action mode itself heals a lot of things. Like I said, I still procrastinate from time to time but I no longer freeze in place like I used to. I don’t self-sabotage anymore. Am I completely healed? Nope! I will do another run of EOG1 in the future but for now though I’m in a place where I can do what I want to do without having to deal with crazy limiting beliefs. Growth is never finished.
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This is actually a GOOD SIGN that should be embraced. The less you “want” something, the more likely you are to get it.
This is, as far as I can tell, the natural course of life and is simply how it works. Once you get what you want either stop and enjoy it, or pick a new goal.
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