A combination of AM and DR:LD then can be good?
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I would say probably Genesis and LD
Genesis doesn’t really convince me, something more focused would be better. Genesis has too many goals beyond wealth.
would be fire
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I would do either AscMogul or Ascension. He doesn’t need a “wealth” stack yet. He needs a “man the fuck up and get busy” solo title.
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This is incredibly confusing to me. What do you mean “too many goals beyond wealth?”
There are too many problems he’s experiencing beyond wealth. Nothing here is a wealth issue. It’s an emotional issue. A superiority/inferiority/dominance complex. Issues with purpose and direction & what he wants to do.
And of course, the unmentioned part, what is he doing instead of looking for work. Maybe there’s some attachments to a ‘pleasurable’ lifestyle instead of one of responsibility… or maybe (genesis would help with this) there’s a belief that wealth is “responsibility” and laziness is “fun”
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These are mostly not wealth issues.
Genesis also has direct wealth scripting
But more importantly it is, in my eyes, the ultimate “in transition” subliminal… if you’re in need of direction, if you’re in need of certainty on where you want to go and how you want to get there, if you’re in need of emotional transmutation during times of change, Genesis is the ultimate sub for that. Plus, it’s ZPv2 Max, which is always helpful…
I used Genesis during my own job search and it was VERY helpful, I can speak from personal experience that Genesis is excellent for this goal. Getting a job is more than “just wealth” too… it takes confidence, direction, interview/social skills, manifestation.
Genesis also has some light similarities to the EOG1 style of scripting that helps people find the way they’ll make money.
I think starting with Genesis, and then pairing it with the Nuevo RICH sub coming out could be incredibly powerful, to help with money beliefs DIRECTLy is what you’re looking for.
I’ve ran EOG and I think that’s a bit overkill for something like this, also, a misdiagnosis of the issue.
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This is an easy fix. Don’t say anything. Wait until bills start piling up and the bill collectors come after him. At that time, I guarantee your friend will be more open to doing something about his life. Right now, you can’t really help someone who won’t try to help himself. Some people only learn through pain.
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it’s always better one that two, two than three.
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And if not Genesis + NRICH then I’d say Genesis + Mogul
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Thanks for this explanation it is very useful and explains well the various possibilities offered by Genesis.
So do you think Genesis is better than Ascended Mogul?
Is there the possibility of running them together to solve this problem or better alone, one of the other?
Sorry, I read it later, before replying to the previous message.
it seems a good idea.
Yes I do.
I ran AM for about 9 months as my first ever sub so I’m talking out my ass when I say It’s great, but since Genesis came out, AM has in my mind gone from “General Beginner’s Subliminal for career/wealth” to a “very specific use case” subliminal…
Also… let me be a subliminal “historian” here for a second. AM gained it’s “Ultimate Beginner sub” reputation during the Q and Qv2 days when, to be perfectly blunt, there was something wrong with that iteration of Mogul… at least compared to what Mogul is now, there’s NO comparison. I liked Mogul ZP much better than AM ZP because of whatever they did to ZP making Mogul insanely effective. Insane productivity, amazing wealth scripting of all kinds, including some light healing, manifestation, etc., but Mogul ZP differs from Mogul Q/Qv2 in practice, in that it does a MUCH better job of creating a whole identity that attracts wealth, not just the wealth beliefs, but also the social scripting necessary to be… not an alpha… just someone perceived as guaranteed to succeed at everything he does.
So not only do I like Genesis more than AM, I even like Mogul more than AM too.
Where I like AM more is when you actually want a “little-emperor,” serious demeanour to your vibe. Apart from that, all of the “Foundational, beginner friendly, good for everyone no matter what their goals are” scripting is in Genesis now, not AM
Remember… it’s not that Genesis has “many goals.” It sort of has many goals but in practice it is just touching the subconscious at such a fundamental level that everything will be positively effected. There’s certainly some light scripting in all areas to round out Genesis and make it the ideal sub, but I believe many of those cross-category effects come from it touching the core of the person and giving them unshakeable certainty in their life, which effects everything.
Think about how Emperor Black creates social dominance, attraction, and confidence in social situations without any social scripting in it whatsoever… that’s kind of the mechanism I predict is happening inside of Genesis… it’s so fundamental to your core it affects everything, but then they added other types of scripting to Genesis on top of that as well.
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@FoxDie : Your friend just finished school. Right now his focus should be on finding a job. Any job that brings money in. Trying to figure out what to do with your life is always easier when you’re not broke.
Ascended Mogul is made for situations like this. He can stack it with DR: LD to blast through his internal limitations. Once he has a job and he is financially okay and not in a state of panic then he can run Genesis to find out what he really wants out of life.
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Thanks guys for your advice. I will have my friend read the discussion so he can get an idea of what is best for him to follow.
thanks again for the support.
I would encourage your friend to read about Genesis and DR:LD.
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What are your friend’s goals?
Of course, I will tell him.
And out of my curiosity: beyond these two titles, what do you think of Mogul, given that I read among its objectives the possibility of removing limitations linked to wealth?
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His objectives are related to the points I wrote in the question. More specifically, he would like to find a job and remove the limitations/blocks that prevent him from working/finding a job, out of fear or other things.
I would encourage your friend to read about Mogul and decide. If he’s new to SC, perhaps start with ONE title, and then after 30 days decide if they want to add another.
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okay, I will tell him about this suggestion. Thank you.