ENDGAME ouroboros

[Jouissance]

came back from a 10-day vipassana meditation retreat, had an outrageous amount of insight and clarity into my life.

a vipassana retreat is like the equivalent of running DRR + RoM + Sanguine: Elixir for 6 months straight.

DRR because it heals EVERYTHING, RoM because it helps you deeeply understand the inner workings of your mind, and Sanguine: Elixir because every single day of the retreat, I was able to observe my thoughts ruminating and becoming extremely emotional about topics farther and farther back in the past. First I was ruminating over things that happened this year, then I healed them via meditation, then I ruminated to last year, then 3 years ago, then 7,

Now i’m scheduled to speak with a counselor about the things I was thinking about on the last day of the retreat, relationships I had when I was 15 (first girlfriends, losing my virginity, getting cheated on) that I didn’t realize could be at the heart of my entire style of relating (less than ideally) over the last 15 years.

[Jouissance]

New cycle, nov 4 - nov 24

day 1: EmpD - 3 mins, LE 5 mins
day 2: TWTP - 2m20s

I’ve decided to switch to a 21 day listening CYCLE, meaning 16 listening days, with 5 days off.

This cycle started off a little weird, but long term, this is the pattern I’m testing.

Week 1

M: 30s LE
Tue: 3 min EmpD/TWPT
wed; Rest
Thu: 30s LE
Fri: 3 min EmpD/TWTP
Sat/Sun: Rest

Week 2:

M: 30s LE
Tue: 3 min EmpD/TWPT
wed; Rest
Thu: 30s LE
Fri: 3 min EmpD/TWTP
Sat/Sun: Rest

Week 3:

M: 30s LE
Tue: 3 min EmpD
wed; Rest
Thu: Rest
Fri: Rest
Sat/Sun: Rest

That way I get to run a subliminal EVERY monday/tuesday no matter what, making it very easy to remember and fit in to the calendar, and since monday is the busiest day of the week for me, I always get to be supported by an LE microloop on monday mornings without worrying about ending washouts early

[Jouissance]

@SaintSovereign

@Fire just dropped some incredible new ideas and tech for EoG that’s sending things in a new – but novel, innovative and shocking direction. Shouldn’t increase development time, but there’s a possibility that we’d need a few more days to incorporate those things.

So, the bad news is that we’re unable to set definite release dates for now. Good news is – EoG is going to be absolutely incredible. So incredible, that with this new idea that @Fire dropped, I may actually drop my Khan Black stack and switch to EoG + Limitless + LBFH for awhile.

wowowowowowowow exciting

[Monarch]

Looking forward to EOG a lot

[Jouissance]

connections keep coming

[Jouissance]

really glad @realitysmith tagged me in this i had no idea this is what iron frame was about.

@Realitysmith

"Hello,

Thanks for reaching out to us. Iron Frame is designed to reinforce and solidify your core beliefs, resilience, and inner strength, which naturally has a positive impact on any other subliminal modules or cores you’re running alongside it, like Wanted.

While Iron Frame’s main focus is on grounding and strengthening your inner foundations, it can definitely support and “lock in” the positive beliefs introduced by other modules. For example, if Wanted is instilling the mindset that you’re attractive and sought after, Iron Frame helps by providing a solid foundation for these beliefs to take root. Over time, this reinforcement makes it easier for you to fully embody and project those qualities with confidence and stability.

So, yes—running Iron Frame alongside seduction modules can deepen and anchor those attributes, making them feel even more natural and unwavering.

I hope this helps! Please feel free to reach out again for any other questions. We’re always happy to help!

Kindly,
SubClub"

Awesome

I have been saying all week that I am starting to realize i don’t trust myself to make big decisions because I don’t truly understand what i need, what i believe, and where my beliefs are coming from - aka i understand what my beliefs but not always whether they come from abundance or scarcity thinking. Sounds like this would give me more certainty.

Thx RealitySmith!

[Jouissance]

Listening since washout

Day 1-4, I listened to EmpD or Limitless, and i also microlooped TWTP and my Chosen/IC custom with jobseeker.

Day 5-7: rest

Day 8 (Monday): 7min EmpD, 3min LE. EmpD at higher loop time had more obviously noticeable results on influencing other people’s opinions of me. Felt smooth, no recon from the one-time long loop.

Day 11 (Thursday): 7min EmpD, 1:30 min Chosen/IC-custom

Day 13 (Sat): 3min Chosen/IC-custom, 7 min EmpD

Day 15 (mon) 1 min LE

Day 17 (wed) 3 min True Social, 1 min Chosen-IC-NWE

[Jouissance]

My most recent Emperor Daddy results (posted in the main thread.)

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@Jouissance

Amazing how consistent the empd experience is.

I’m 29 for those who care.

Im experiencing

• The emotional control
• intense reflections on how I hadn’t utilized my previous years to their fullest, which comes with some regret and sadness, but is followed by an intense motivation to utilize the next 10 years of my life to their fullest.
• I shaved a mustache for movember and am non-ironically LOVING it.
• am thinking of career switches in which I get to be in a more nurturing and mentoring role. Teaching, counseling, helping high schoolers attend uni. I had been thinking about this pre empd as well but as I’ve been listening consistency, I’ve found more confidence in this idea, both in terms of how much I’d enjoy it, and in terms of brainstorming ways to make a high income living despite a traditionally low income industry.
• I’m productive
• I have great leadership and especially among younger people, like 21-25, it’s almost like a Chosen-style positive leadership, not a dominant Emperor/khan/GLM:CO style.
• have been engaging a lot in learning and improving my fashion. Got my first ever compliment for being “fashionable” in normal ish clothes. (Looking like a tryhard will get u comments on ur clothes but isn’t true fashion, from what I’ve been learning. True fashion is looking great in normal clothes, well assembled.)
• not just emotional control as in non reactivity, but also greater self understanding of who I am and what makes me happy

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@Jouissance

Wowowowowowowoowow I have NEVER felt so conf8dent in my appearance in my entire life. God bless EmperorDaddy.

The fashion is not just becoming timeless but I’m understanding fashion in general and becoming much more confident in fashion and general appearance.

And I’m wearing a mustache now and rocking it like a 30 year old king.

And I bought a very subtle gold chain and went out in a black shirt black pants and this little gold chain I felt AMAZING.

I’ve even identified the one part of my look that could be improved - I need to mew

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@Jouissance

In general it’s crazy how many job offers i’m getting since starting EmpD. Easily 2, sometimes 3, a week.

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@Jouissance

I normally never watch self development content on YT. I just have “been there done that.”

But lately I’ve really been interested in content related to basic fashion (check out Wanhee) and social skills, especially relating to listening and asking questions

4

@Jouissance

Getting back into thinking about all of the areas of life and growth that I wanted at20 but “couldnt” do because of the BS stories I told myself. Realizing I can do them now.

Law school.
PHD in psych.
Basically just advanced education.

EmpD inspiring me to live the life I want without limitations.

Also inspiring me to go back to school to hang with younger girls (half kidding)

[Jouissance]

I’ve been thinking about TWTP a lot. I can tell the leadership and “effortless authority” scripting inside of EmpD is being tested.

People often say that they get “shit tests” on Khan.

I disagree. I feel like I know exactly what this is.

I've been getting "shit tests" in subtle ways

(except in a TWTP type of way, not much of a Khan type of way, as EmpD relates to leadership more… or at least that’s what I’M gearing it towards).

But I’ve always been getting them, I just haven’t noticed them, and haven’t even had the skill/foresight/ambition to try and win those shit tests/power games.

So i’ve gone from a position of being unaware that i’m losing power games → being aware that i’m losing power games.

I do feel like adding TWTP to the stack, but I’m going to follow my own advice and remember that if I start running one title (empD) and all of a sudden start getting the desire to run another title (TWTP), that is just my subconscious mind reprioritizing elements like power-dynamics-awareness because it’s already getting massive power-dynamics-awareness because of my EmpD run.

Also, thanks to @viktor’s idea that presults are just your ability to execute subliminal objectives that you’ve read, but haven’t actually subliminally listen to, I’m going to read the sales page of TWTP a few times and maybe even pull out the 48 laws of power, to push more conscious guidance towards power dynamics and leadership.

It’ll take a place in my stack in 2025, but right now, I’m going to be transitioning from EmpD/LE to EmpD/Limitless followed shortly after by EmpD/Limitless/Chosen-IC-Custom (because that custom has job seeker and inner circle and NWE so it’ll help me find a great job, and then chosen/limitless/empd will help me sell like a god.

[Jouissance]

I feel more “unfolding” from Emperor Daddy than I have from any other subliminal (apart from revelation, ofc). I do nothing and the wisdom of EmpD effortlessly unfolds to reveal itself. I guess extra unfolding was the best way to implement the mining-your-past-for-wisdom scripting. @Niles @demian @Azriel at do you think about this?

And the more I run EmpD, the more I feel the pain of not running TWTP. Had another few instances over the last 2 days where I was able to understand the social dynamics better (thanks to EmpD) but knew I wasn’t the most powerful, respected, or highly regarded.

[Jouissance]

Found this vipassana meditation teacher

https://bethupton.com/teachings-talks/

@Viktor she does 1-1’s on a by-donation basis

[Azriel]

@Jouissance

And the more I run EmpD, the more I feel the pain of not running TWTP.

Wow, I was thinking the same exact thing! I don’t feel a lot of PCC/ TWTP in Emperor Daddy at all. I find it authentic and just putting it out there. I definitely see the social dynamic navigation, but I am doing and saying things that make me feel awkward inside and then growing from it.

It’s hard to assess, though, because Emperor Daddy is driving up a subtle kind of emotional recon that feels new to me. I feel like I’m really processing and dealing with my life, my past, present, and future. And it can be kind of ‘vulnerable’ and insecure-inducing. At the same time, I fall into moments of real power and dominance on it. The Emperor scripting is really pushing me to be independent and start my own business. ASBR fit into corporate/ authority more seamlessly. ED is making me REALLY averse to dealing with authority, especially authority I deem as uncaring.

Generally, I find myself very dominant but in subtle ways on ED, but I have also gotten into conflict in ways I have not in the last year since running it.

Work wise-I’ve generally been lower productivity- except I started working out again 3 times this week and also can tell this sub is energy intensive so that may be recon+ just generally more spend

Sales wise

I did 5 minutes of ED throughout the week. The 7 days I’ve run Emperor Daddy with my stack, I sold $70K -so sales-wise manifestation and disposition, that’s a big week. Although I have to end a cycle at 10 seconds of ASBR or True Sell, ED straight to a sales call noticeable slower and less directional drive on the call.

[Demian]

I definitely feel an unfolding happening. EmpD is an interesting sub, I was thinking of running it with Khan for the next cycle, but I think Minds Eye might serve me better.

Regarding the power dynamics, I have a different opinion on this one. Yes, it does make you feel vulnerable in a way, but in another way, I think the authenticity scripting of this one will imbue you with a more powerful inner frame than any other subliminal, including Khan. I might be in the minority by making such a bold statement. I’ve run Khan for probably more than a year collectively, and the feelings I get from this one sub over Khan are miles apart.

I’m also in the target category to run EmpD as I’m close to pushing 50. I feel more opportunity now than I have ever before. I also feel more positive and there is a feeling of I can pretty much do anything and plow through whatever is standing in my way. I’ve never, ever felt like this at any other time in my life.

I also feel the KB scripting, as I ran KB for almost 8 months I think, primarily 5 months of stage 4. And the recall from that sub is definitely kicking in for me.

I can ramble on about EmpD, but, I’ll just say this much, I think anything you run EmpD with, and over enough time, it will absolutely multiply the effects of those subs while bringing out the most authentic version of yourself.

The whole drive of this title is of someone who has already conquered the world and is now enjoying the fruits of their labors. I feel that, even though I haven’t necessarily conquered my kingdoms yet, it doesn’t feel that far out any longer.

I start my second cycle of EmpD in a week, so, it’ll be interesting to see how much more the changes come from this sub. I’ll probably have a good handle on the sub in a few months. Can’t wait to see how it works with the new Minds Eye.

I’ll close out my incessant introspection with a quote from Sun Tzu.

“Know thy enemy and know yourself, in a hundred battles, you will never be defeated.”

[Viktor]

thanks! i’ll check her out

[Jouissance]

@praisetheurdtree I wanted to get off that gyys thread. Kinda negative.

I ran eog1 for 9 months, never ran stage 2.

But I ran it after about a year of ascended Mogul, and then during my eog run and after my eog run, I ran HOM for another year, which I was never able to run before EOG1.

The logic was simple. If eog1 was financial healing, it would make all financial subs more effective, so instead of upgrading to EOG2 I upgraded to HOM and that worked for me

[Jouissance]

Saw Ryan Holiday speak today, got VIP, and asked him about the link between Buddhism and stoicism. He said that they reach the same goal using different methods. Buddhists meditate, stoics journal. Inspiring.

[praisetheurdtree]

@Jouissance

I wanted to get off that gyys thread. Kinda negative.

Feel ya. Also, good to know. I like the progression steps.

[Jouissance]

Just about to finish up my 21 day cycle. here is what the listening schedule has looked like.

ENDGAME ouroboros

Listening since washout Day 1-4, I listened to EmpD or Limitless, and i also microlooped TWTP and my Chosen/IC custom with jobseeker. Day 5-7: rest Day 8 (Monday): 7min EmpD, 3min LE. EmpD at higher loop time had more obviously noticeable results on influencing other people’s opinions of me. Felt smooth, no recon from the one-time long loop. Day 11 (Thursday): 7min EmpD, 1:30 min Chosen/IC-custom Day 13 (Sat): 3min Chosen/IC-custom, 7 min EmpD Day 15 (mon) 1 min LE Day 17 (wed) 3 min True…

I’m thinking of taking a break from EmpD. It’s been amazing. I’ve transformed my inner world through much deeper self understanding, and I’ve transformed my external appearance through changing my fashion and appearance. I haven’t gone “suit and tie timeless” with my wardrobe. But everything is enhanced. I’ve studied fashion for the first time and learned what “basic fashion for normal men” is. I now get a few compliments on being fashionable despite wearing simple stuff - it just fits me well and i wear it proudly. This has even felt like a bit of a physical shifting sub… it’s not directly shifting, but i’ve gained an interest in mewing and doing the dental/chiropractic work necessary to fix my posture. And I went to the gym (instead of a sport/martial art) for the first time in at least 6 months. Great sub overall for changing my “external” world.

Personally, internally, in regards to my career… I’ve gained a LOT of insights. I feel like the career introspection and re-evaluation of my life goals has done it’s job and I need to take action on that now. I know where I want to go, and I need to connections and drive maxxed out to get there.

[Jouissance]

Adding in true social because I have a lot of social events coming up.

On a deeper level, I know that if I really want to maximize any alpha (sales) subs that I run, I need to address beliefs around everyday social interactions. Small talk, chit chat, connecting with strangers, etc.

I’ve got programming from years of getting bullied in high school and thinking it was because I was weird, too loud, too wild, too socially uncalibrated.

I learned how to be a conversationalist, but not how to feel like talking to strangers is natural and effortless… only how to impress the person while still kind of feeling like I’m trying, on the inside.

This doesn’t happen with people I like, or already know, or people who seem really engaged in the conversation, but it hits hard when i’m supposed to talk to strangers and stuff like that.

@Niles is like a freaking mirror to me. Didn’t know that we both also had 2 years of university and were going to complete our bachelor’s. Seems like him and I are always running the same title at the same time for almost the same reasons lol. Sometimes I even take 2-month long forum breaks, and when I come back, me and Niles have switched to running the exact same subliminal.

Right now, though, I think him and I are both in similar places in our careers, and got similar lessons from running EmpD.

Now he’s running Khan, and it made me think, damn I need Khan too. That’ll be a plan for the near future.

[Niles]

@Jouissance

On a deeper level, I know that if I really want to maximize any alpha (sales) subs that I run, I need to address beliefs around everyday social interactions. Small talk, chit chat, connecting with strangers, etc.

This element of Khan is wild. Coming off of loosing the most promising job/role that I’ve had, I have never been less fearful and more confident in my life. Social shaking is existent.

Focusing on just Khan/Limitless for the time being, and it’s been an awesome stack.