Emperor first or stark?

i think the whole aggressive thing isnt about being alpha thats my opinion, i dont think alphaness equals aggressiveness and toxic masculinity, thats what i believe in,

i dont think it was scripted that way either i think everyone develops a different attitude while progressing ,

to be honest i think even if i run emperor i wont be aggersive and alpha toxic, thats not who i am nor what i believe in

Just know that the warnings on the sales copy of Emperor are no joke or marketing gag :wink:

Take care my friend

The aggressiveness comes because of two reasons :

  • The subliminal fills you with so much internal power and strength that you have never felt before. Thus manifesting on the surface as anger.
  • Reconciliation
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thats a good option as well, hmmmmm ill see about that one but either is good i think

stark will do good too, i think i have a pretty good foundation i just need to improve even more!

but i think for the time being stark serves me better socially and when it comes to productivity some creativity as well ,

what does empire building here means? like is it about focusing on achieving goals , and self improvement ? or is it just business and wealth?

maybe thats a side effect of it, laundering the sub mind with new beliefs will cost you some emotions true that, but i have a problem with

alpha = aggressive, obey me ,. shut up

that kind of alpha :sweat_smile: i dont think that as alpha, maybe aggersion comes from rec

but thats not a person to aspired to be. again my opinion

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u too budd

I agree.
Alpha doesn’t mean aggressive.

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Yes it is a side effect (reconciliation), especially when you start running this sub without having a good foundation.

yes!

alphaness or extreme masculinity is toxic without a feminine side

humans have both masculine and feminine it doesnt matter what sex youre

going extreme in either both will cause some unbalance, life is about balance

but im 100% sure thats not the way the sub was scripted, is to just be alpha with no femnine energy within you as if youre a carpet hahahha, but thats my take

were humans at the end :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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also alpha means to be masculine to have masculine status like getting things done and other things that i dont know how to explain in english cause its not my first lang

so no alpha doesnt mean = toxic or aggressive

thats not a thing that you want to be, you want to be balanced loving, motivated, aggressiveness is for the weak

strong people are the one who are kind, that takes effort, balance, and mindfulness

aggression takes 0 effort

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Becoming lord of your own life, being independent financially, socially and sexually. Emperor is oriented to those goals stronger than Stark. Stark gives you a choice if it comes to empire building, Emperor urges you to do so.

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Apparently, he wants to work on his limitations (that’s why he mentioned Limit Destroyer) and Emperor was design to go beyond them on every level of your existence.

im loving that stark has those too

that focuses on goals and pursuing them, especially procrastination

For the goals you mentioned Stark is a better choice anyway. I thought you just asked about the “right” order of using those subs. That’s why I would start with destroying limitations and going beyond then (Emperor + LD).

couldnt find journals that go over a year with stark do you know any? or you yourself have been runing stark for a year or maybe 6 months or anything?

so stark shouldnt be looked at as if its only about social and fun and sex hahahha :thinking: its also about that business and getting things done :sunglasses: my own empire my own atlantes :sunglasses:

I don’t know any and I ran stark for three months only but it was the Terminus version that was pretty dicey if it comes to the results.

If you paired up Stark with Executive you would be unstoppable, I guess.

you didnt like it?

I had more urgent goals like healing (Dragon Reborn) and now I’m building my new identity (Alchemist + Rebirth) and i’m working on transgressing my old self and my limitations related to sex, power and money (Emperor).