CC + Paragon + WDB/WB

More than anything
LBFH help me make some people care more about me

While RICH and NW haven’t shown external results just yet

It’s funny because all I wanted from LBFH was only to build self-love first and then to have external results - as love from others

🤷🏼

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I wonder what LBFH would have done to your cycle when you were on WDB. :thinking:

Wow that’s a good question. I hope LB or LBFH would help New Wanted or WB express themselves better!
I had easier time than I expected with WDB looking back it was the easiest. But not the strongest.
I want strong sexual results less social ones.

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Wanted is starting to work -
Guys compliment my clothing choices.
Guys start conversations with me.
If I just stand next to someone in a social gathering (yes there needs to me a context) and I look at home them he starts talking to me saying hi and gives to bro high five.

LBFH might help but it’s still not as consistent.
Not complaining just describing.
I think when LBFH would mix it’s going to be a different animal :joy:

One girl waved me when I was few feet away from her and friends while she was IN HER CAR and I’m outside just because I look her direction!
WTF?
I was mysterious smiled and was with friends on the other side lol

Two girls I had not so good interaction last time I saw them - both started talking to me and being friendly. Still NOT sexual. Just friendly.

Now the weird part - a guy flirted with me to the point I felt he’s sexual seductive aura and intentions it was warm and welcoming.
I guess if I could learn to be like he was towards me I could attract many women easily lol
It felt very awkward and I tried to stay away from him once it happened.
At first he was just a guy like a lot of the others who was friendly then after an hour it felt like he’s f hitting on me WTF?!

Anyway very interesting.
And it’s very similar to what happened when I played New Wanted for 2 cycles with Khan last year.
I had a lot of guys complimenting my style and being friendly.
This time around I had more women starting conversations.
Still not sexual. But something is happening.

I think Wanted makes the approaches more direct, and women hover more.
It’s hard to compare it to WDB or WB. WB worked less quickly, I think the anti-recon is very helpful here.

And Wanted is more sexually charged than WDB, and I get more respect from women and men on NW.

WDB is softer, more social, and happier.
More romantic as well.
But it feels like a young guy, not a man.
That said, WDB worked very well! And it’s effective.
:laughing: It’s hard to pick!

I get more attention with Wanted, I think.
But less romantic attention.
Sometimes just attention from guys and women in general.
With WDB, there was always something slower and cinematic about me. Very subtle, but it was there.
Anyway, you can’t go wrong!
About WB, it was stronger when it worked. But I couldn’t make it work consistently. I mean, it’s not like NW or WDB are always consistent, but they are just more consistent. Because of the anti recon.

Also I think LBFH could be a super charger but not sure.

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RICH surprisingly works faster than I expected.
And gently.

I’ve seen RICH work on my 4 days washout.

Subliminal Club is surprising me this time.
Not sure what the f happened with ECC and me still remember how HoM helped me a lot.
Maybe after RICH it would be easier to use ECC.

Wanted is nice I need to let it build momentum.

The question is should I use something like Primal, Primal Seduction, Khan or SSX with Wanted?

I’m sure after some Wanted cycles WDB or WB would get easier to run :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

I vote ‘none’. Stick with Wanted and address the issues holding you back.

So you think a stack like Paragon Rich Wanted would do?
And with time wanted will solve its own problems?

I know it’s only a week but still satisfied of Wanted? Vs WDB?

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It’s not only a week I’ve been using New Wanted last year for 2 cycles as well
And the OG wanted last year for 1-2 cycles
Also used WDB here and there …

First of all I want to say I went to different places or did different things so it’s hard to 100% compare between them.
I mean it’s also luck.

Anyway I am not completely pleased with any of them because haven’t had sex with women using them.

That put aside, WDB was easier to run and use had more women gravitate towards me in subtle and more romantic ways. The archetype ia something I Don’t like. Made me feel sweet cute and gentle too gentle. No alpha and confidence aura. That’s not good for me. I go to places where guys and girls are very alpha. Even though no one was out to get me on WDB people were nice. I still want to feel my own inner power.
Using Primal or Emperor or Khan could help. Even just a module of alphaness. But I don’t have the money for a custom now.

Ok so what about Wanted?
With wanted When the sexual gravitational pull is effecting people you get into a bubble of strong attraction. It’s not happening easily and it’s hard to stir. But it’s stronger in my opinion.
Also I had a girl waving me from inside her car with her friends!! Doesn’t happen on WDB not to me.
So the attention is stronger once it happens. But it doesn’t happen to me as easily as with WDB.
Guys approach me more on Wanted like I’m special or more important.
But they also don’t leave me alone. Making me the center of attention with them or at least a noticeable person in the room which I don’t always like. But hey what can you expect from being a wanted guy? So I can complain about it it’s part of the process it’s part of the game. And if you lead the man the women will follow remember this!
On wanted the girl I liked didn’t show interest.

On WDB a different girl I know really wanted to get closer.
Also WDB effecting women in a subtle way so they don’t go against it.
Wanted can effect them and sometimes I think it can be too much for them and so they can resist it? But hey it’s just the beginning.

And I’m a guy who doesn’t have very fast results with these subliminals. I have a hard time with romance subs. It’s easier for me to run money related subliminals.
Even with Khan it was very difficult for me to have success with women.
I have very high standards. Women do want me without the subliminals as well but I don’t go for average looking girls. So that’s that. And I have a lot of experience with women. I don’t just want to have sex with everyone. But I do like to be with women…
WDB has its special something!
Wanted is building a good foundation for the Wanted line as I understand.

They are not better than each other they are different.
Want to me more romantic and cinematic in the eyes of women? Choose WDB.

Want to me more sexually attractive and important guy in the eyes of women? Also a bit scary? Go with Wanted

You will feel the same but they see you differently.
I think a lot of women find it easier to see a guy in a romantic way and daydream about him that’s maybe why WDB is easier. Also you feel safer to them. So it’s easier for them to come closer.

To sum up:
They both will work once you internalize them
Wanted suppose to build a better foundation for WB and WDB
Combining them with Primal SSX Khan or Emperor could help.

What do you choose?

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Wanted to add to that:

Wanted helps me want to workout more
WDB didn’t.

Wanted makes me more mysterious and a bit of a coquette.
WDB less so even though a bit.

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@Martin

I find this post of saint very accurate to what I’ve experienced with both!
Read it I just did it’s very good.

Starting with New Wanted again - A new cycle

Mind you some of my cycles were very short and I might have taken too many rest days

Paragon is great
Much better than the just version
It’s a deeper work and its worth it
Consistency is key with paragon.

This cycle I’ll going to use Wanted Paragon and Inner Circle.
I might try to throw in some RICH as the 4th title for experiment.

Day 1:
Wanted
Rich
Paragon

Day 2:
Inner Circle

Tomorrow still be a rest day
It’s a lot this time but I’m experimenting

Don’t triple with the newer titles (rich, trader and summertime). The ZPU preview stuff is powerful. Check out the new instructions for how to build a listening schedule.

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Yeah ok

Initial results of Inner Circle:
Helps me strength the circle of friends I know.

Helped me with cold approach? To be determined!
However IC might be the best sub for cold approaching women if what I think just started to happen.

If I’m right about it, IC helped me ve confident while speaking and subconsciously opening up the group of women so it’s easier for me to express myself without being needy or clingy.
If I’m right about IC then the result = confidence + self expression + adding value + without being needy. This creates attraction.

Now at least for now - nothing major happened other than maybe it is IC which helped me to express myself confidently and without taking value just offering it. No attraction didn’t happen as it could. But yes women were much more interested in talking to me.
However I can’t know if it IC or mere coincidence.
I need more time.

But if it is IC it might be a Tyler Durden RSD sub in a bottle! Makes you a pro pick up artist?! Better than daredevil True Social as of now.
And even better than Primal.
If I’m right about it. IC might be the pickup sub and best sub for cold approach and potentially the best to get women? Still wondering.
Combining IC with Primal/PS/Wanted/Daredevil or even by itself might be the key.

I’m over excited now so I’m not sure.

What I can say for sure is:
IC helped me to connect with friends I know to try to achieve some of my goals including approaching women. Have approach anxiety? Not problem I use friends who don’t. And instead of seeing it as a crutch I see it as connecting with friends - me giving and also me getting value from them. It’s an exchange. Nothing wrong with it.
Also it helped me to talk to more friends I know to keep the connection alive and well.

If IC is so important and gels well with wanted it would be in a custom with a seduction title for sure.
Maybe Wanted maybe WB maybe something more active. We will see. I hope I’m not wrong about IC.
So interesting…

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Don’t know why I never thought of IC for cold approach

In my mind I always had it as a networking subliminal

Cool idea you have there Benny

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