CC + Paragon + WDB/WB

Still recon
Crazy dreams about women and clubs

And headaches still.

It all started because I used too many subs the same day with SB :joy:

Still recovering.

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Starting again with
Stark
WB
WDB Paragon NE

Even though recon hasn’t totally subsided.
If I feel I need 2-3 more rest days I’ll take them.

(Yes I’m usually playing 3 subs a listening day, sometimes 2)

Do yes. You’re running p

What is the rush?

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Good point .

Ask yourself this in general. It honestly sounds like a look of your troubles (recon headaches, stack swapping, wanted frustration) comes from trying to get to the end ASAP. Theres no need to rush. You’re doing great.

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I feel motivated and focus.

Feel this Joie De Vivre kida feeling in Stark.

Didn’t feel this on SB? Why?

Didn’t feel this on Emperor why?

I feel motivated to tackle my goals.
A bit More joyous.

Unreactive and self amused a bit as well.
Talking about masculine energy these characteristics should be super attractive to women once they could feel that from me.

Likely lacked the proper foundation.

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No no, was the same 2 years ago

I’m on a washout that’s day 3 already.
I contemplate continuing with Paragon WDB NE or building a new custom, something like Paragon Wanted and PS.

I feel I need that push to approach women; Primal or PS should help with this.

On the other hand, WDB feels a bit off to me, too sweet and romantic. However, a few girls from when I traveled did get mesmerized by me.
A few of them completely fell in love with me. That’s not bad, is it? However, with NW, women touched me more; it was more sexual, which I do prefer (and hopefully I can choose if I’d like to make it into something serious as well).

Also, women approached and stared at me more when I used NW compared to WDB or WB. I think I have a harder time internalizing WB. I could put that in a custom and let Anti-Recon do its thing.

@heartmadeiron, your thoughts?
@Niles @Jouissance

RESONANCE

You seem more certain about the fit of the results from NW than WDB.

And you probably want to permanently settle on either NW or WDB before you maximize the auras they produce with WB.

For me, the effects you’re describing are my clear win. I don’t like optimizing for sex/touch/ioi, I like optimizing for connection.

For you, the sexuality of encounters is more important. Just go NW for a while and start microlooping WB to boost it when ur ready but that’d require consistency with NW for WB to have the best results to amplify the aura of

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Is NE, new emperor?

My reccomendation would be to actually just run a main store title, or if your going to do a custom- a single core with selected modules until your getting the results that your really happy with.

While it blends, there’s a lot going on in a 2-3 core custom and makes it hard to pin point what title is doing what, and what needs to be improved upon.

Agree with @Jouissance - Wanted seems like the better fit.

Sorry, name Embedded

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Paragon + WDB as a name embedded title @Niles

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Yeah I see. You are right.
Now I want to figure out if I need something like Primal or Primal Seduction in that stack.
I approach women and I like to feel free to do so and get results.
Not just to be passive and wait for them to notice me.

But I do have approach anxiety.
I push through it every few days but I know I can do so much better.
I feel Wanted and some kind of active approaching style sub could mix well

Edit:
NE - name embedded
NW - new wanted

So I think needing a push to approach, is also something you should dig into a bit on your own- without thinking about which sub does what. They all address approaching in some fashion or another.

It’s more of a mental block that you need to uncover on what’s preventing you from doing that.

You can also choose to take action despite a sub/how you feel/anxiety. Even back in my pick-up days, while running stacks fully oriented towards that, I had anxiety/fear about approaching all the time. I did it anyways, sometimes 100 times per day- and it was after taking action like that when the subs really started to blow my mind. To this day, craziest results I’ve had. I think they really start to click when you lean into that initial discomfort and push past the fear

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I feel you when you run into a roadblock your first instinct is to switch your stack. That’s recon by the way. Think about how many subs you’ve run since starting this thread. That’s too many even for a year. This is why you haven’t seen consistent successful despite intelligent listening. There’s no magic bullet here. Consistency, persistence and self-work will do more for you than building a new custom when things aren’t working out.

Same, fam, same. This raises an important Question, @Benny what do you want from women? Is it sex? Love? Connections? A harem? That you’re asking us if your results are a good thing gives the impression that you aren’t sure what you want besides feminine attention.

This. To add, your stacking romance subs that pull you in completely different directions.

Hard agree. WDB popped off when I started taking action. Being the prize doesn’t mean sitting on the sidelines until women notice you.

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I want IOIs and to feel Wanted.
Then to be able to choose from many women after having sexual actions with them the girl I want to be long term with.

TBH ai do approach and I don’t get attention or better results than other guys I know. I actually get less results with I approached women. My guy friends get more attention when they talk to women. But when WDB did kick in it was more slow burn results. They expected dates and time instead of sexual activity…
They want my time and attention before some of them even want to kiss (taking about 2 dates.) that’s ridiculous.

@heartmadeiron

What is it within you that’s giving off dating/multiple-date energy instead of raw sexual magnetism energy?

Because like you said, it’s happening differently for other guys.

I also thin you have some unrealistic expectations if you think all your sexual encounters are going to be instant.

Wanted seems the obvious choice for you, and it’ll give you that feeling of being WANTED externally and internally - through IOI’s and through changing your self-image to be that of a man who is already WANTED, and THATS when the results will really kick in.

If every time that healing starts to get a little deeper, and results slow down as a result because something deep and profound is happening, and you immediately switch stacks to keep chasing the high, you’ll always be in the same cycle you’re in because when the subs do the work, you’ll stop doing the work.

You need to make at least one commitment. Stack switch as much as you want, but never stop running Wanted.

This is a weird name embed by the way. You’re not combining synergistic titles. You’re running a romance title that you’re not aligned with alongside a physical healing title, and you’ve maxxed them both out to an 11 by name embedding them… Healing already dominates the stack and slows down results. WDB is already not aligned. Having them in a name embed doesn’t just improve results, it amplifies the whole sub, which means the problems in this name embedded major are only amplified as well, which feels like shit because you dislike the recon/unalignment more than you like the results .

I think you should make a name embed with New Wanted to affirm the commitment. For pick up, I think @Saiyan4Blue ran it with Seducer’s Reality Bubble and said it was the perfect module to convert Wanted into a title good for pick up and approach.

Instant Spark would also be great for you based on what you desire.

Synergy: Perfection Manifestation would definitely be amazing though.

Then stop using WDB. It’s clearly not giving you what you want.

Now that’s intertesting. I’ll keep th at in mind.