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#21

Excellent choice for deeper healing.

That’s right, although since I can tell that you’re looking for deeper healing I would suggest running Ascension along with Limit Destroyer first and then switching from LD to Rebirth.

Do set any time frames, just see how it goes and move forward when you think you’re done with the healing or at least you’re satisfied with the results. The only difficulty is that healing is hard to gauge. If you had a problem with that I think 3-4 cycles should do an excellent job for you.

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#22

Forgive my ignorance but how long is one cycle? Is that a 21 day period listening alternate days followed by a wash out?

#23

Yeah. That’s right.

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#24

So I’m about to embark on at least one cycle of Elixir + Regeneration.

I’ve seen mentioned in the forum about Elixir Ultima. Is that another version that is better as a booster?

Is that available and how could I access it?

Also does it really make no difference which way around these 2 subs are listened to?

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#25

I joined in February so I couldn’t tell you about Ultima but ZP is all you will need especially in the beginning. As for listening order, some people will tell you it doesn’t matter, some will from what I have seen. I will say that I do play my main sub/custom first, but that is just me. My advice, I would experiment for a cycle and then switch order for another cycle.

Now I will give you some advice for healing titles from my own experience, this is what helped me but everyone is different, so take my advice to what you will.

  1. Be introspective but also grounded, healing subs will dig things up from your past. Be ready

  2. When that happens separate emotion from logic. Ask questions on why this particular memory is popping up? What is the lesson?

  3. Understand that subs work mainly the subconscious, that means it will bring up memories that are subconscious as well, memories that you thought were healed, or got over.

  4. A lesson I have learned, was appreciate the pain and adversity. Looking back at my life and struggles my breakthroughs happened during the struggle not after. This brought inner strength and willpower.

  5. Be easy on yourself. Healing, while it’s worth it can also be a pain in the ass.

  6. One of the biggest things with subs, and you will see on the forums a lot is taking action. When I am deep in healing I have no willpower or motivation but during those times if I take action sometimes the motivation comes back.

  7. Always believe in yourself and no matter what, fight for a positive attitude even when times are tough

Like I said this is just my advice that has helped me out, through my journey so hopefully it can help you.

Also welcome to SubClub :grin:

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#26

Elixir Ultima is the older version of Elixir ZP. It isn’t available in the Downloads since it has been updated to its current version.

If you mean the order of the subliminals as in which you play first and second, then it doesn’t matter. They are scripting to program the mind to affect certain behaviors. So whether one comes first or second doesn’t matter in the long run as long as the change that you are looking for happens.

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#27

One question I forgot to ask, is it better to leave a gap between each sub when listened to in a stack?

Like a 30 min or hour break at least?

Also, it appears some prefer the effect of Elixir on its own without Regeneration?

#28

No need. ZP subs work listening back to back.

Some prefer Elixir alone may be because its healing is gentler than regeneration as it is more focus.

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#29

Is it ok to listen to Elixir & Regeneration alternate days instead of back to back. So one day Elixir, then one day off, then next day Regeneration and so on?

I take it you still should have the rest day between them?

It’s just I think I am sensative, and getting either recon or overload from running them back to back.

Can it be confirmed this proposed listening schedule is fine, and will it slow down the process?

If I have to go with just one of these for now does the vote go to Elixir or Regeneration?

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#30

It’s actually even more better to do that. Please go ahead and do so. You will get more rest time to process each title when you run each of them on a separate day with a rest day in between.

Remember to play only 1 loop each.

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#31

I don’t mean to be a pain but could LBfH + Elixir be an even better healing choice for me?

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#32

I wouldn’t call LBH a healing title but it could have healing effects. Try LBH + Elixir for 2 cycles and see what happens.

Both products are very good so am sure their combo will have good effects. And maybe we in the forum will learn something new from this combination.

EDIT: I just checked and LBH is categorised as a healing title.

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#33

Alternate LISTENING days…

Example

Monday: Regeneration
Tuesday: Rest
Wednesday: Elixir
Thursdays: Rest
Friday: Regeneration
Saturday: Rest
etc…

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