I’ve noticed with Libertine that you have to play with it to see how the sub affects you personally and how it affects the people in your social environment. There are people who will be feel sexually attracted to you, but they won’t let it show, and it has to do with the environment. The Libertine aura gets stronger the more often that you use it. This will also have an influence with how people respond to the levels of attraction that they feel for you.
Since you said that you’re following directions, I can assume that you ran the program 3 times, once every other day?
I see results from one loop, the same day. This varies depending on where I go. If I go to the park then people will feel free to stare, hover, smile, interact and allow their attraction to show through. If I go to a conservative place, most will not let their attraction show, unless I combine Libertine with Love Bomb.
The most truthful answer would be that it’s up to you.
The Libertine effects can definitely become permanent if you want them to be.
If you make a conscious and intentional effort to manifest it as a permanent development, then it will manifest as such.
You can use visualization to drive this if you’d like.
Visualize your aura as a field that surrounds you wherever you go.
See it as having core, innate and permanent properties as well as the more outer/reactively malleable properties.
This may not be objectively true. I’m not an expert on the mechanisms and quantum anatomy of Auras… but it doesn’t matter.
It’s meant to serve as a communication of a concept/intention to your subconscious mind. It can be whatever you want.
All you have to do is direct your intention of the manifestation of the Libertine Aura through a core, innate and permanent development rather than through a fluctuating level.
Manifest it to change your baseline.
What you’re essentially doing is consciously and intentionally directing the development/manifestation of the subliminal.
If you want to use the subliminal like an energy drink, that’s how it’s going to manifest.
If you want to use it to cultivate an ever sustaining aura. You can choose to manifest it like that.
Most people don’t realize that they have this power and option to consciously guide, mainly because of a lack of awareness of one’s power.
That’s why some users here claim that they get better results when they’re able to see objectives, or get additional knowledge or confirmation about what a subliminal does from the most trustworthy/knowledgable people (the creators).
They’re allowing someone else to decide for them on how to guide their intention, because they don’t realize that they can or don’t trust themselves or their power enough to.
Stuff like this is considered more advanced because you’re getting away from the “Default” and the “Handholding” and more into the awareness of powerful freeform creative consciousness.
Actually since it was part of a stack I ran it every 5 days.
I don’t quite understand this, that would mean running a sub once would be all you need. But like any learning or muscle building it will take time and repetition, once you get it, you need to practice it if not you “lose” it, but it is easier to regain.
My logic is:
If you learn how to ride a bike, you will always “know” but if you stop riding for 20 years you are not a cyclist, and probably when you try again it will be harder than if you kept riding, but easier than someone who is learning for the first time. So riding once or twice a year will keep your biking abilities fresh.
That has to do with something called procedural memory (unconscious, long-term memory).
It’s purely in the domain of the subconscious meaning that it doesn’t need to be consciously recalled.
It’s created through something called “procedural learning” which is “repeating a complex activity over and over again until all of the relevant neural systems work together to automatically produce the activity.”
So it’s permanent in a sense, as it can’t be forgotten easily, is automatically produced and is created through repetition.
My point is that you can consciously guide Libertine to manifest as a procedural learning to create procedural memory.
Now the procedural memory is dormant but it’s activated of course when you’re engaged in the activity that’s related to it (riding a bike).
Your Libertine Aura can also unconsciously be active to some degree when you’re engaged in activities that are related to what it was repeatedly activated for.
So in other words, you can consciously guide it to be subconsciously self-sustaining, through repetition.
Here is another way I can slice it…
Undisputable facts:
Libertine is designed to generate a powerful, profound and exceptionally effective sexually charged aura.
The subconscious mind is what goes about creating this, in response to the subliminal script.
Script → Subconscious Mind → Results
When we talk about the Libertine Aura as fading away after ceasing to use the subliminal.
That’s suggesting of a Stimulus → Temporary Effect relationship.
Pretty much like an energy drink.
You listen to the subliminal (drink the energy drink), it gets processed by the subconscious mind (body) and you experience a temporary sexually charged aura with a capped duration (boosted energy levels).
If you grow 3 inches taller after using a physical shifting subliminal for 6 months, your height gain isn’t so temporary, now… is it?
It’s not like you’re going to suddenly shrink 3 inches, after you stop listening to the subliminal.
There is too much of a self-sustaining momentum.
Using a subliminal to gain height is suggesting of a Stimulus → Permanent Effect relationship.
What I’m explaining to you, is that you can consciously guide Libertine to be a Stimulus → Permanent Effect relationship instead of a Stimulus → Temporary Effect relationship.
The permanent effect is still a developmental process that requires repetition but the outcome isn’t temporary.
Ok and how would you do that? And supposing I am not able to do it, I would still like to know if one does not do this guidance of the mind, how long would libertine’s effect last.
It’s just a matter of consciously guiding the subliminal.
Say that you’re building a wooden fence and you see a specific area that you need to hammer a nail into.
If I give you a hammer, you already have an conscious intention, desire and expectation of exactly
what you’re going to use it for
how you’re going to use it
the result that will be produced after #1 and #2.
Simply by even just looking at the Hammer, those 3 points are instantly answered.
Your intended usage of the Hammer is consciously guided, precise and specific.
Now, lol.
Your subliminal (Libertine) is a Hammer.
Your specific area that needs to be nailed = developing a permanent and self-sustaining sexually charged aura.
You have to align your 3 points and that acts as the bridge.
You need a specificity, precision, expectation, direction, and intention that is fueling and driving your usage of the subliminal.
That’s what conscious guidance is.
There are also tools like the new Ascension Chamber that can definitely help with that in combination with any of your preferred methods,
You can do all types of things. What I mentioned before is a good one - visualizing how you want the subliminal to manifest while listening to it.
If all of this is too much for you, then that’s completely fine, don’t worry about it.
I’m sure that someone will give you the answer you’re looking for with how long Libertine will last on average based off of their experience or others, etc.
I have still noticed people acting the same way after the 5 day washout. Other people seem to need a refresher and for the aura to ramp up to be affected.
I will def try the direction suggested, as it can only improve the effects of the subs and we should all do it with all subs not just Aura based, since having goals and visualizing the usefulness of soemthing can only improve experience (and that goes for everything not just subs)
I don’t mean to be stubborn (although I probably I’m lol) but the question was geared more to the idea behind the creation of the aura subs and the experience of the users.
I mean when @SaintSovereign & @Fire created Aura subs and then ZP tech they must have thought about the long lasting effects even if a user was casually listening to it, or they must have also thought about it only being effective while in the cycle.
for me it has been hard to notice Libertine’s effects tbh but maybe I’m not paying enough attention. this is why I wanted to know what others thought.
Why ultima and not ZP?
Also @RVconsultant has been so helpful in my other posts I’m tagging him here to see if he has any input.
Don’t look for signs the product is working just go about your ever day life. As soon as you begin conversations with people you will see a difference in the way they behave compared to when not listening.
I think its a bad idea to look for signs a product is working as you will begin to constantly look for validation is not a good thing.
There are different versions of Libertine and I admit that the zp version was more difficult for me to understand than the V2. I’m female and most guys were really obvious about the feelings that Libertine inspired in them on V2. Then with ZP, instead of smiling and staring at me, some men began to hide their faces from me. There was even this one guy who tried to pick me up, yet he wore a hoodie and I could just barely see his eyes, nose and beard. lol I’m running the other zp titles along with Libertine also, so I’m sure that they all play a role on the levels of confidence of these guys.
I’m curious to hear about @Invictus thoughts about Libertine.
Yeah I guess us guys is easier to notice, women vary a lot. I guess we men are just more primitive, can’t control our instincts as much. And women are more sophisticated and vary a lot, some might be obvious and others might not be as obvious to us but to them they are clear as day in the signs. This is why it is so much fun!
thanks man! sounds like it is time to experiment. My next cycle will be D1: Stark + Khan ST1, D3: Wanted.
I will refresh Libertine once a week and report back. any good recommendation on running Libertine refresher? run it on an off day, run it with wanted (but just once a week).
Yes. Monitor your energy level. Remember that auras wax and wane. Sometimes it may appear the aura is not working. Other times, women might be so aroused all they can do is blush and stammer.
No. Off days are off days.
I would encourage you start with once a week. Notice the effect.
I don’t usually say this about subs, but Libertine is so powerful that I had to just stop it before it got out of hand
Libertine’s aura felt so powerful that if I wasn’t in a relationship, I would have still been using it.
For context, I used it just twice, and it was clear to me at the time that if I stayed with Libertine, then I would cause problems between me and my girl, because of the behavioral changes I saw in both myself, and every girl I came across that time.
Awesome, I basically I will be running Stark + Khan St1 + Wanted + Libertine(once a week only)
See how that goes. I’m excited and will start tomorrow as I’m finishing my washout.
Thanks guys if I see anything interesting will def keep you posted. Special thanks to @lrw for the “technique” I will be using to guide my sub & to @RVconsultant for the input and help as always.
