Ask The Dust: Khan, Ascended Mogul

You thought of replacing GLM:Co with WB?

Same aura tech and tech innovations as WB, but geared towards status and sales, not women.

Will help with women too but keep you wealth focused.

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Emperor Black is awesome for sales.

I’m considering doing Khan/ actually deciding between that or R.O.M as my third. I’ll run a 4th sub booster/ physical custom most likely

I think that would be a great stack

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It’s a possibility, I believe if I used GLM:CO it’d be in the place of my “present” focused sub. Would still want something a bit more overarching/working on internal mindset for long term as E.O.G 1 is going to be used more as a healing title with shorter loops.

Nice, I’m thinking L.O.S as a physical booster/4th sub. The wanted black physical shifting has been pretty insane so I’d like to keep that aspect in if possible. Just feel like wanted black is a bit too overhwhelming in my stack at the moment.

I’m doing a WB/LOTS/ BDLM/ RONW custom lol as my booster
If it derails the stack to much I’ll pivot, but for now that’s the plan

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While I enjoy some of the freedom that high ticket/remote sales brings me, I’m strongly considering getting back into outside, d2d, or construction sales.

Especially with construction the potential for 30-40K/month is definitely there, and with my background face to face sales leverages my strengths so much more. While starting out in sales, my technical skills weren’t the best, my vibe, people skills, and charisma really helped me outperform a lot of seasoned vets. I believe now that I actually know how to sell and solve problems as well as close, having more volume and doing face to face in person sales is something I would really exceed at. I also just feel so much more congruent in that type of atmosphere.

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Have an interview lined up for this Wednesday for a new high ticket sales. Pretty similar industry to what I’m in now but for a much bigger brand, as well as a better offer.

Sticking in the same industry would allow me to get started much quicker as I wouldn’t have to really learn an entire new industry/product/service. Have much more in bound then my current line of work. Looking forward to this one. Top earners are in the 150-200K range which is much closer to where I’m looking to be.

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This is awesome, I’m newer to straight high ticket sales. At first I thought I was a natural. And I am to some degree. Manifestation, subs, and quick learning have helped a lot. I feel I’m great at selling, very good at closing, but I wouldn’t say that I ‘know how’. Not sure if that is a personal insecurity/ hang up. But I just don’t feel like I ‘get it’ fully still. Even though I do close and make bank, I mean- I believe I’m close to $40K gross income in 3.5 months now. It feels like so much is just a mix of my charisma and connecting to enough people/ the right people. What had you feel that you really know to sell, solve problems and close vs. just riding on your vibe and charisma? Maybe it’s my self talk and ROM or Khan would help but I still don’t feel confident in my own consistency or ability. And that I’m missing something.

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I think what’s helped me gain confidence is having success across a pretty broad spectrum of industries, comparing my performance to others on the same team, and I’m always listening to some type of sales training in the car, gym, before bed etc.

Honestly hundreds of hours of trainings has really just help me understand the process and what I’m trying to accomplish at each stage of a call. Granted this will vary across of sales, but over all following Cole Gordon’s belief ladder process has really helped me close consistent at a good rate.

If I have a bad day now I typically don’t blame my “skills” as I know what to be doing. It’s more of a mindset/energy thing. How did I sleep the night before? Did I workout in the morning, visualize, listen to motivational tapes, do I still believe in the product?

For me when I have all of those things in check I’m closing at a pretty elite rate. My biggest issue is staying consistent with that, it’s hard to string months and months of complete dedication to the craft. I’m also really learning while being good is going to help you close better, just generally pumping your state is going to have one of the biggest effects on your sales. Look up people who are selling at the 7 figure per year mark, some of them even just doing b2c. They are almost performing, high energy, masterful tonality. State plays such a huge role in this game.

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Also don’t get me wrong I go through the huge confidence swings in this game too, a bad streak is still pretty soul crushing and makes me want to quit :joy:. But a thought that has really served me is, Is switching “I’m not good enough, limiting beliefs, etc” to if I was at my 100 % best right now, what/how would that have gone differently.

Quick 3 day wash out. My wash out periods tend to get pretty choatic and off track when I do longer ones, and I have a pretty big week coming up so need to start dialing it in.

This next cycle/stack I’m going to keep pretty short and sweet. Khan and Ascended Mogul. I’ve never really given Ascended Mogul the time it needs to flourish, and I think I’ll get more out of some of these bigger wealth subs when I’m in a more relevant position. The goal for now remains pretty much the same. New high ticket job, and start putting together consistent 10K plus months. I’m going to completely eliminate focusing on all of these other side pursuits. My sales tend to skyrocket when I use my extra time to review calls, go through trainings, etc, instead of working on a side hustle.

While I’m buckling down in sales, I’d like to still have a social life, increase my status, build new connections, and have the overall confidence that I feel with Khan. Considered WB, but Khan is a much better fit for my personality at this point. I’m certainly not quiet and mysterious, I’d describe myself much more as big and bold, I know my entire town, and am very well connected in my local scene. On top of that, Khan has parts of Mogul, and I think the overall archtype carries much better over into business situations.

Should be a pretty balanced stack, with good synergy. I’m hoping the discipline, ambition, and finance emphasis will somewhat curve the downsides I’ve expierienced on Khan in the past. Right now though, this stack feels perfect for where I"m at right now, highlights my strengths, and should put me in a better position come January if I do decide to start my own business. Goal is to have 20K in the bank by January.

Also I’ll be shortening my listening time. I was pretty much only doing full loops for my core titles, and I think it was just too much. I’ve had pretty lackluster improvement over the last few months. Part of this I think is although I might not’ve realized it, I was spending so much time in recon. Like any listening day was virtually useless after a solid few hours. I just kind of became used to it, so I didn’t really attribute to recon…

Experimented with 3 minute loops of both of these titles today, and I feel incredible. I literally forgot what it felt like to have the fast acting results I’d experienced in the past. With this new tech, I’m certainly on the less is more train. Might slowly go up until I’m in the 5-7 range, but certainly when starting a new stack this is the way. Honestly don’t think I’ve felt the full “khan swagger” since zp1 because I’m always probably cutting the effects by listening to full loops of big stacks. It’s good to be back.

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Ran second loops of this stack yesterday. Things still going really well. It’s early on, but the “archtype” seems to manifest as business/career focused while still having strong levels of status, confidence, social skills. Seems as if it kept the swagger of Khan, but skews the results more towards work/achievement. Really exactly what I was looking for. I seem much less distracted, or likely to go out and make plans when I have other goals to be focused on. Not opposed to going out for a drink or socalizing, but I won’t do it if the interaction doesn’t have anything to offer either in terms of work/business or if I know the interaction will lead to something.

I’ve had absolutely no productivity issues, and even turned down an offer to go out the other night, which typically I would have been down for in a heart beat. On top of that, showing a lot of financial discipline still, which in the past has been an issue on Khan. Really digging this stack so far, couple of interviews lined up for tomorrow as well.

Also ended up throwing in a 3 minute loop of legacy of spartan last evening, as that is somewhat of a side goal of mine at the moment. This third spot in my stack is going to be much more pivotal, and used to focus on whatever my side interests are in the short term.

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8/4

PHATTT update today. Stack has been going incredibly well, 3rd listening day of A.M/Khan. Things have started to pick up at my current high ticket job and have a lot more opportunity coming in there. However, the role itself if pretty capped. Top earners are in the 7-8K/month range MAXED. It was a great starter role on my ticket journey, and I’ve learned a ton, but it’s not a positon I see myself growing into.

Had an interview today with another company in the same industry, but a much, much bigger brand. Earning potential is much higher. Lowest earner on the team is bringing in around 140K/year. Top guys are pushing 300K. All inbound leads, right now I get maybe 2-3 week who aren’t even fully qualified. Also much higher offer, 12-20K. Absolutely crushed the interview, my experience is so relevant as I’m pretty much doing the exact same thing with a smaller company and actually tougher because a good percentage of my leads are self set/outbound. Pretty much my dream job right here, will update on this when I hear back next week.

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Got offered yet another job today. Quite it a bit more work, but really high earning potential (300-400K). Ascended Mogul goes crazy as far as fast acting results. Literally a week into this stack and my financial situation is completely turning around.

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8/11

Just seeing I haven’t posted an update in awhile. I was on vacation for about the last week and a half so more focused on spending time with family and friends as opposed to the grind. Still it was a nice little re-set. Had a lot of fun the first week, then spent the last few days of it resting, recharging, and hitting the gym. Last day of vacation a couple days ago I ran full loops of each title as well as 3 mintutes of wanted black. I overdid it a bit and the last couple days have been pretty heavy recon questioning my stack, career, etc.

Woke up today feeling much better, going to do a 5-7 day wash out starting from yesterday. Hit the gym at 4:30 this morning, listening to a couple podcasts and I’m feeling much more certain about my direction.

Couple big paradimn shifts from this morning. I’ve been spending so much of my awarness in the future and where I want to be. Whether it’s things that I would like to happen, or something I fear of happening. I’ve been listening to practicing the power of now the last couple days and it’s startling how much of my attention has been in the future. I used to be someone who lives in the past quite a bit, but focusing my awarness on the here and now, all the tension, health problems I’ve been expieriencing, stress, seems to have washed away. I felt like I was on the path to have an early stress induced health condition all because I was focusing so much on what I didn’t have and it was causing me massive pain. It also helped me come to a realization about manifestation, and how even if I was focusing on what I wanted, the visualizations etc was all on the future me . Not on what I could control in the here and now. I realized that everything I wanted in the future, the massive success in sales, confidence, sucess in my relationship, dream body, I was projecting into the future, and not into the present. This put me in. a place of always being in my head because I was thinking of what I wanted to happen, now what I have. If I was truely already the person I saw in my mind, I wouldn’t have to be thinking about it anymore, I would already be, act, and exhibt those traits in the here and now.

The second realization I had was that I don’t need to start a business to live my dream life. I kept thinking of all these skills I had to acquire from marketing, managing employees, sales etc. Most businesses take around 5 years to start being extremely profitable say if I wanted to be in the 7 figure range.

However what if I started to treat my sales career like a business. Instead of learning a million different skills for business, I could focus on the macro skills of sales. Getting really strong tonality, masterving a discovery phase, getting great at cold calling, learning copy for booking more appts. If I take that same excitement I have for business and transfer it to learning skills in sales, I honestly think I can achieve that same 7 figure goal in less time and with way less stress. Then how much easier would it be to start a business if I had a ten year sales career and was an expert in the space, as opposed to trying to build a brand, marketing, scale, and all of these other things which I don’t even have a foundation in yet.

Feeling a new level of excietment for this now. Planning on keeping my stack the same after washout as I’m really enjoying it and having a lot of success up to this point and I’ve started to see some major changes. Ascended Mogul, Khan, and third spot I’m debating between True Sell (obvious), L.O.S. (Gym discipline transfers to life discipline, keeping my health in check has a strong correlation to my selling, and R.O.M, covers quite a bit of what I want.

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Man, I’m actually seriously considering simplifying my stack like this.
I had intended to test Khan stage 1 with my new True Sell Black Custom.
I am feeling the pull to build business, live and love life, and it’s quite distracting from my current works goals. I went 3 months mostly pure machine 80 hours a week in two careers and now it’s slipping strong. Ascended Mogul might be a good ticket. Not acting out of plan yet. But I love what your describing @Niles

I love EOG but I think it might need to take a month break.

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Defientley a good stack to keep you focused and stay in your lane. I’d avoid Khan Stage 1 like the plague while doing sales unless your in a place where you can go through a big sales slump. Had crippling anxiety last time I ran it, so I’ve always done pretty much just stage 4 when it comes to Khan. Stage 4 also has more wealth scripting, as well as limitless in it.

Ascended Mogul has been great though. Extremely good for motivation, discipline, wealth manifestation, has physical shifting. Just needs some social skills so stacking that with True Sell Black would probably be killer.

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My plan was to test Khan Stage 1 next week but my stack with True Sell Black is insane
After a first week of brutal recon on my second week of true sell black I’ve closed $60K this week with no super high ticket sale. It’s just been close after close. My best week ever was $85 K- but half of that was one high ticket. This week is more skill and my revenue is eligible for higher bonuses. It’s about a $7K week of net income for me in 1 week. So now torn about changing anything

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Literally just got Khan ST1 and I haven’t even been on the freaking forum. This is a nice surprise

Sales guys are always aligned.

Let’s get it

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8/16

Been pretty sick the last couple of days, sales has been going pretty well with the limited amount of calls I’ve had booked, however I haven’t been putting in the amount of outreach needed to really take off with things. I’ve been thinking a lot about how much time I spend on things counter productive to my goals of selling at a high level. Social media, researching, etc. Need to get back to having my days revolve around income producing activities, and having my mornings revolve around pumping up my state through cold showers, working out, etc. Fell into a little bit of a slump recently where my motivation hasn’t been what I’m capable of, and lost touch with my goals a bit.

To combat this I’m going to start waking up no later then 6:00 AM getting in a lift/cold shower. Also instead of spending my mornings researching, browsing the forums here, and on Youtube, I’m going to be writing one sales letter a day. We have around 30,000 leads in our CRM and I get paid for closing deals, as well as setting appointments if my calendar is too full. This will be a huge opportunity to expand on my paycheck as well as practice my marketing/copywriting. I believe also getting really great at direct marketing will help turn the tides on my sales as a lot of my battle at my current position is convincing them of who we are in the first place. I have an idea for getting people into our sales funnel that should eliminate this, build familiarity, and take my sales into my own hands. I’m done blaming our marketing, leads, etc for my lack of success right now. As a sales person I basically have the same ability to take my income into my own hands as the owner. If I can have success with this company, I can make it in high ticket anywhere, and will feel confident starting my own business one day. I have so much more opportunity then just what’s on my calendar and it’s time to start taking action on that.

As far as my stack goes, I’m thinking Ascended Mogul is going to be a long term staple. It has nothing unnessicary for me, and has really helped grow my personal power, accountability, and discipline, as well as some nessicary financial manifestation. As far as what I need to focus on right now and what I can control, it’s the perfect fit.

With Khan, I’m feeling a bit conflicted. Noticed this in my past run with this. While it’s helped me with my social status, SWW, etc, I’m not sure it’s the best fit for my goals right now. I’m purely focused on attracting wealth into my life, and realizing more and more that until I accomplish that goal, I can’t properly give attention to anything else weather it’s my health, relationships, social life, etc. I’ve had a great Summer, much more balanced then last. Maintained my current level of income and sales, and had a lot of fun mixed in. However in order to grow, I need to focus on a season of cutting everything else out, and hard work. Khan isn’t the worst title for this as it certainly includes some wealth scripting, however all of the sexual/social scripting has a tendency to make me unfocused. With Sales in my opinion it’s something you have to be all in with. Any time I’ve sold at a really high level, my life has revolved around opitimizing my work days. I’m somewhat missing the extreme focus and discipline of a pure wealth stack. While I’m putting in the work now, I’m not putting in the EXTRA work to get where I would like to be. Perhaps I didn’t give the title enough time to truly flourish, but I also notice quickly when I’m in a state of extreme clarity, motivation, etc and w/Khan that is almost never the case for long periods of time.

Considering swapping it out with: Stark, Limitless Executive, Home of Medicci, or Ecstacy of Gold.

As for L.O.S., I feel I’ll come back to this one once I can make a custom and have more room in my stack. Ascended Mogul should cover some of the physical shifting and discipline in the gym for now, so will likely be replacing it with R.O.M, True Sell, Ultimate Writer (For Copy Writing).

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