have you tried ascended mogul? it has anti porn scripting and its helped me pretty much lose interest in that stuff all together, give it a try
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Iāve tried it. It does work wonders but I would like to see a subliminal that specifically address Nofap only. I know several members who would also like one.
Believe it or not for me personally primal kinda helps me with Nofap because Iām expressing my sexuality in healthy ways instead of repressing it. Old primal I was to horny it was unbearable
I havenāt been doing any energy work for a while now; other than what occurs spontaneously during meditation.
Iāve been thinking about it. Back in October 2017, I set the intention and then worked through the recommended 100 days of foundational work to establish a basis for further development (as I had also done almost 20 years before that).
But after that I let it drop off, mainly because my sensations of energy were kind of fleeting and unpredictable. There was not that satisfying feeling of effort, feedback, and making progress. Felt like flying blind a lot. (I canāt really tell at this point what the quality of my qi flow is and how much of that practice is still alive in my system. So, if I return to it, Iāll most likely be starting another (blind) 100-days practice.)
Havenāt been practicing taijiquan either, since 2016 or 2017, I think. Decided to concentrate my time on straight meditation.
The other thing is that I found myself feeling ambivalent about taijiquan. It is definitely meant to be practiced and used for self-defense, and I kind of felt that if I was not using it for that, I was somewhat wasting my time. Like practicing an empty ritual. But taijiquan is also an advanced qigong system. So, I guess if I could develop greater energy awareness and inject that into my practice, that might be enough to keep me with it.
Iām very interested in giving it another try when the time is right.
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So how are people recommending to use As Above and So Below?
Prior to meditation session or during meditation session?
Prior to qigong/energy work session or during qigong/energy work session?
Iām at the point where Iām considering working with them.
Guess Iāll play during my meditations first and then see how I feel after the session.
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wellļ¼I tried them both for a whileā¦I also tested the supercharger versionsā¦with no doubtā¦Ultima version works betterā¦I love them bothā¦
I used AAU while I was meditatingā¦it works much much better that wayā¦the energy surging is strong ā¦I felt energetic and I could even see the boosting effect carrying over into others subsā¦I also tried it before or /and after meditationā¦it lost its magic that way to a great extentā¦
I only tried SBU few times ā¦not as much as AAUā¦cuzā¦it got me restlessā¦my energy system fires up after I meditated on SBUā¦just really hard to calm down and fall asleepā¦even if I ultimately fall asleepā¦it disrupts my sleeping patternā¦also it projects a really strong presenceā¦it might have some help ļ¼I am not sure what to use of it ā¦
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Thanks so much @Sebastian_Po. That really helps.
Sounds like As Above could be more appropriate for evening/pre-bed meditation (higher chakras, calm, elevated consciousness) and So Below for pre-activity meditation (lower chakras, focused, directed consciousness; might be interesting pre-magickal working). But, Iāll see.
Iām glad that you observed it to work well when paired with meditation as thatās the way thatās most convenient for me to use it. Thanks again.
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I will tell you soon. My soon to be custom will be with As Above, SG, Heartsong, Love Bomb 
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I would not be surprised if As Above is included in SG
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I put also a lot of boosters in this custom
You may be right, but I think sometimes itās less a matter of āincludedā and more just that two programs may have overlapping goals and effects.
I guess sometimes one will be included in the other and sometimes not.
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You are probably right. It is just that when I use As Above I have the same inner peace than SG. Below makes ultra horny
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Experience trumps theory. So Iāll back your view over mine.
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interestingļ¼the few times I did use SBUā¦I didnāt feel horny or sexualā¦what I felt is a strong projection of presence energy like libertine producesā¦but still there were distinguishing differencesā¦most of them were noticeable on my physical appearanceā¦
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does it work for sexual energy like the energy i feel when i run primal seduction ultima? can this product significantly boost that energy?
In addition to what lion posted Reiki, meditation and alchemy
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this is one of the very few actual reviews for this product.
thanks a lot for posting this.
have you tested the ZP version yet?
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