Advice from the sub club elite society lol

I’ll be honest deep down I know I need more healing in order to have the romance subs express themselves well. The times when I’ve ran a healing title like limit destroyer, I had great results during the washout…before the washout, it was stale as water, but after a month washout, I had my boss come on to me strong, calling me, texting me etc., before then when I would run a romance sub alone…it would be surface level effects…nothing substantial

also when I ran khan, the og one, I ran stages 1 and 2 with daredevil og, I had a barista treating me like I was king, hinting at us having out, giving me the time of day and she was incredibly gorgeous…like incredibly lol

so maybe lets see what this custom does… :crossed_fingers:

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When using wanted I was so thirsty for results and I would get in your face results from time to time but then read this post from saint that changed my perspective on everything, I think he was answering a question from @JCDenton

It would seem so, however – if one were to experience a “good” form of recon, this would be it, because you are clearly attempting to work through an internal issue by externalizing in the form of questions. That’s a “seeking” action, and one seeks to resolve imbalance. Believe it or not, these types of discussions do indeed qualify as “taking action.”

Anyway, to answer the question – one of the things people have to remember is that we are forced, by nature of the company’s global customer base, to create an experience that can be used and enjoyed by ALL. While theoretically, more “in your face” results could lead to faster development, said faster development almost ALWAYS (and we know this for a fact, for we have observed it ALOT) comes with destabilization – a very intense experience. Consider the fact that once you shatter a very deep world view or internal issue, your world will metaphorically “drop from under your feet.”

The goal with more “subtle” results is providing you with consistent and steady progress that eventually leads to major leaps over time. This avoids destabilization, and believe it or not, will get you to your intended outcome much faster, since you’re not dealing with perpetual recon. What everyone tends to forget, is that these titles were actually developed for long-term runs – like a year.

Those who have done this will attest – there’s a period where results aren’t as prominent, but are consistent. This is the stage where you see those individuals reporting things that many would consider minor, or not a “true” result. Things like dreams, or minor synchronicities that seem to appear outside of them (finding money, people paying them small amounts back, extra head nods at work). The kinda stuff that honestly, more critical people would dismiss as placebo.

Then, comes the time when the individual begins to doubt themselves, thinks about changing stacks, results seem to slow down. The inner test here is one of resilience and consistency – a test that what we call the subconscious itself seems to deliver, almost as if it’s a protective measure (are you attempting to grow in a manner that is truly authentic to you). As such, this isn’t a form of recon that we would want to attempt to bypass (if it’s even possible), as this usually signals an upcoming breakthrough, and you want to work with this “recon” with as much sagacity as possible, because the deeper you understand what’s happening, the better the breakthrough.

Then comes the breakthrough. The person realizes something about themselves that they never knew before, and whether they continue with the stack, or even subliminal audio itself ends up opening opportunities and viewpoints that they weren’t capable of seeing before. New “paths of manifestation” begins to emerge, and their new inner system begins to externalize. If the breakthrough was reached through steady, consistent means, we avoid the destabilization effect and instead the individual feels motivated, with a deeper sense of internal power.

If they continue with the inner work, the process then repeats from the start. Subtle, building to a breakthrough. The thing is, with each cycle, what one calls “subtle” changes, as the individual is now capable of experiencing more “in your face” results without it causing destabilization. You’ve seen individuals run titles, get incredible results and then externalize their lack of inner self-worth by then questioning the nature of the subliminal audio industry itself. And they do so usually through the lens of religion and spirituality, which makes sense, as people rely on that to make sense of that which isn’t easily understood – a paradox really, since spirituality for most people is a mystical process that intentionally defies logic (but I digress).

What these individuals aren’t recognizing is that the subliminal didn’t “install” the ability to perform within them, but rather helped bring out their innate ability to achieve whenever the irrational fears and emotions of the mind are brought under control. But if a person has a very poor self-image, what tends to happen (again, based on our experience with our titles, we are not claiming this process occurs with anything else), their shadow begins to emerge – the unresolved, unhealed parts of the self – and the people will project that onto others, who will mirror their own trauma back at them, reaffirming the cycle they’ve create.

And rest assured, any subliminal audio title or modality of healing (including things like Yoga and Qigong), when pushed to constant intensity will result in these types of things. Consistent, steady growth, however, assures a positive end result as long as the individual takes action to help move things along.

So, while things may feel “slow” at first and the individual may desire to “experience more,” the truth is the matter is that as long as you are getting results – no matter how small – you are still progressing toward those larger results, but you are doing so in a manner that assures that you are building a strong inner foundation and framework before trying to take on anything that would leave you destabilized. Not only does this give you powerful and potent long-term benefits, but it also assures that the titles can remain universally used by anyone regardless of their current stage of growth. This is why we create Artisan titles – those who have developed the capacity to handle them can do so"

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just some encouragement for those who aren’t seeing in your face results yet and feel like switching stacks…this helped me stay in line with the end goal and thats to run these subs for at least a year consistently non stop

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I think you f’d up.

I have f’d up on 12 customs though so I get it.

But you just have to assess the strengths/weaknesses of this custom.

Strengths:

  • Heavily healing focused

Weaknesses:

  • Heavily healing focused

So… it’s generally advised to keep healing out of a custom so that you can choose when to vs when not to have healing in your stack.

It seems like you wanted Wanted/WDB/LB to shine as a unique self-loving seducer archetype that’s healed relationship trauma.

Regeneration kicks that into over drive.

It’ll be an interesting stack but the biggest weakness is that Wanted/essence: WDB will completely take the back seat.

But it’s certainly some stellar prep for when you do run wanted.

I think what I would do is run Wamted Dream Boy in your stack. The QTKS + Wanted Dream Boy would be the experience you’re trying to create. Then you run the healing mammoth once a week as a healer and expect to introspect. Run 3 mins max. Don’t force the healing if u wanna skip a week.

Long term u could trade out this custom for Wanted and WOW will Wanted SHINE when you finally do

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makes sense, that is a very heavily healing induced stack, I keep forgetting that LB is a healing sub too

I’ve been running wanted for like 4- 5 cycles consistently

WDB I haven’t ran yet

I’ve never really got how essence works, so to dream of me be considered like a shorter version of WDB

Because you’ve laid out what you need to do to get the results that you want

But you want to run Wanted and focus on many goals

There’s a huge difference between need and want

One is harder than the other to do

Well, the thing is, I have a dysregulated nervous system, and chronic fatigue (and autism and etc).
So the thing is, SaintSovereign has said at various times, DR: Regeneration is a title specifically designed for healing and restoring a frazzled nervous system.

I’d add that I seem to recall him saying somewhere that he doesn’t believe that DR: Regeneration will take over a stack in the way that other healing titles do.

So for these reasons, I’d wanted to run (and continue to run) DR: Regeneration at least.
And pairing it with Love Bomb just felt like a good thing to do (and I discussed that with SaintSovereign at the time, who recommended this custom).

Regarding Wanted, absolutely I want to run wanted.
But I have considered dropping my Wanted & Diamond custom and replacing it with something like Genesis: Ascension & RICH, once released (or C&C).

I’d also note that I’m (very) keenly awaiting the unveiling of the new Paragon suite.
I’m really hoping it will have a strong nervous system healing component, which might then mean that it would be fine for me to drop the DR: Regeneration & Love Bomb custom.
Because, although emotional healing would be great, my primary need right now (aside from financial things) is physical healing, in particular for my dysregulated nervous system.

So that’s kind of where I’m at.

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Apologies

I may have been poor in my explanation

I absolutely think Regeneration and love bomb would be great for you. It was what I was implying but may have worded it poorly

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Yes exactly - ESSENCE: To Dream Of Me is like the best of Wanted: Dream Boy in a module format.

It’s described as equivalent to 1.5 - 5 modules, depending on the title, and whether it’s the entire title or just part of it distilled

Thats actually pretty cool

edit: I’m actually excited to run this title now because I believe that its an easier archetype to embody

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Not necessarily. New wanted has a lot of internal building during the early cycles. Some folks didn’t see hits in the first couple months but were growing internally

Mood. Wven seduction scripts like Wanted I run for the internal development. Attracting women is a result, not the goal.

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Like @heartmadeiron said. Not necessarily.

I ran WANTED for 4 cycles, no obvious outward success but a ton of neediness, shadow work and inward self worth healing took place instead. Then at the end of cycle 4 the mysterious persona started to take over, which I didn’t like.

No results means a crucial element of the sub is being worked on inside you. Self worth issues mainly.

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@Michel eh? I may well be misunderstanding something, but you’ve been regularly posting really good results for a while now haven’t you? Loads of IOI’s, girls coming on to you, altered responses and so on?

I found these accounts joyous to read and was really happy for the changes you were seeing, especially since nothing much seemed to be happening for you in the beginning.

Hoping this will happen to me too lol, and I’m only on my 2nd cycle of Wanted, so who knows? :slight_smile:

Or was this on WDB or something else, rather than Wanted?
And even then, it could be down to the foundation of running Wanted for 4 cycles first?

Those are recent developments.

I’d say foundation building was key for me. 4 months with Love Bomb, GLM and new wanted made dream boy a smooth process.

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What @heartmadeiron said. Results came after 4 cycles, then after switching to DreamBoi.

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Maybe that’s the foundation needed for seduction? I’ve never used this title…
I’m not sure how it feels and what happens on it
Can you share more?

Just posting this here, and if I am not wrong even @Jouissance had better results with HOM while using sanguine.

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After the new sanguine I had dramatically less recon, permanently, across all subs.

Recon used to be a huge problem for me and then sanguine fixed that

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I’ll be honest, I’m thinking of dropping wanted and run WDB…but I don’t know if this is just recon or something else.

I mean dropping wanted would make my stack very synergistically perfect with

QTKS: PS/emperor + WDB + regeneration

I think the strong sexual mystery vibe might be kind of throwing off the women at my workplace(I work in a female dominated space) and all of them are married too…so there’s a lot of deliberate avoidance, it seems, like they avoid me…same thing happened when I attended a friend’s wedding when I ran wanted black(heavily sexual)

I think I’ll try the romance route

might try WDB first by itself though I’m wondering if I need to take another 5 days in addition if I’m just running WDB to see how it affects me