@qOS what about primal nights or sex and seduction? what are the differences between them and primal seduction. i believe sex and seduction is pretty old tech as well. You mentioned that primal seduction works best when you already have a dating life, what if you have to build one from scratch? Would a custom subliminal with primal core and primal seduction core be a good idea that way i get to continue the momentum of primal too.
Question from @khudi666 (original post):
@qOS what about primal nights or sex and seduction? what are the differences between them and primal seduction. i believe sex and seduction is pretty old tech as well. You mentioned that primal seduction works best when you already have a dating life, what if you have to build one from scratch? Would a custom subliminal with primal core and primal seduction core be a good idea that way i get to continue the momentum of primal too.
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@khudi666 — yes, a custom with the PRIMAL Core and the Primal Seduction Core is a good idea for you. The two overlap on seduction, and the PRIMAL Core keeps the fun, adventure and risk-taking you would otherwise give up in the swap. The other two titles first, then the custom.
Primal Nights
Primal Nights is not a seduction title. It is built for intimacy with a consensual partner once you are already together. It may help you develop a strong aura of lust in your voice, gaze and body language, and it carries pillow-talk scripting for those private moments. Anyone can run it, and it is meant for private settings, never work. It runs on Zero Point v2. In the Primal line it comes last: PRIMAL for confidence, Primal Seduction for the romancing skills, then Primal Nights.
Sex & Seduction X
The old title you have in mind is the original Sex & Seduction. Sex & Seduction X replaced it as a free upgrade for owners, and it runs on Zero Point v2 MAX. Its centre is the New Romance Experience, which helps manifest favourable situations at whatever skill level you are at now, so you build your own style of seduction from positive encounters. It also carries conversation mastery, sexual technique, and work on the hidden beliefs that hold romance back, and it suits any gender.
Primal Seduction works by a different method from Sex & Seduction X. It is built around reality bubbles, auras of sexiness and of status, and sexual performance, and its core combines the best of PRIMAL and Sex & Seduction in a new way. PRIMAL runs on Zero Point, and Primal Seduction has been a ZPU hybrid since 2 October.
Building a dating life from scratch
An active dating life here means going out regularly to places where you can meet people. You do not need a roster first. Primal Seduction carries scripting to manifest situations and is designed to work whatever your current skill level, but you still need to be where people are. Bars, clubs, concerts and restaurants where singles go make it easiest. Starting from zero, the missing piece is the habit of going out and approaching, and PRIMAL’s work on approach anxiety, social anxiety and resilience to rejection supports that.
The PRIMAL Core with the Primal Seduction Core
Approach anxiety, wit, calibration, resilience to rejection, and physical and verbal escalation are in both cores, so the custom puts most of its weight on seduction. PRIMAL adds what Primal Seduction lacks: fun scripting, adventure and calculated risk-taking, and living by your own standards. Primal Seduction adds reality bubbles, its NSE scenarios, sexual performance and its two auras. You also carry PRIMAL’s momentum straight into the new build.
Since you are starting from scratch, add the New Romance Experience Core as a third core. It helps manifest positive romantic situations every day, which may supply the encounters you do not have yet, and every romance core in the custom is processed through its framework. It is the same experience that lets Sex & Seduction X start from your current level, with extra scripting in the core version.
Build it at Standard strength, since it is a new custom and Primal Seduction is one of the longest scripts in the catalogue. Bring it in at the start of your next cycle in PRIMAL’s place, beside WANTED and Genesis: Ascension Stage 1. Listening guidance is in the official instructions: https://instructions.subliminalclub.com
Question from @Judoka (original post):
Of course i meant adding time as the sweet spot goes up if you can handle more as you listen more @qOS What is the incentive of increasing listening time
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@Judoka — yes, raising your exposure as your sweet spot rises is fine. The incentive is more of the same results, with the same stability you had at the shorter exposure. A longer listen does not bring deeper results or more complex subject matter than the shorter one did.
Your sweet spot is the exposure that gives good results with little reconciliation. It moves up only when you are processing comfortably at your current exposure. A higher sweet spot means you can take in more at once without losing that steadiness, so each listening day gives you a little more.
Going past it works against you. Listening beyond what you are processing comfortably tends to slow results and bring heavier reconciliation, and the extra time does not make up for that.
Move up when your current exposure feels comfortable, and stay where you are when it does not. Listening guidance is in the official instructions: https://instructions.subliminalclub.com
Which title in the catalog is the best in allowing you to be and express your true and authentic self and be comfortable in your own skin? Summertime? Heartsong: Attuned? The current Renaissance Man? Or maybe some other title?
Maybe there are different titles that allow you to be comfortable being you more, and others that allow you to express yourself more?
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Question from @Golgo13 (original post):
@qOS Which title in the catalog is the best in allowing you to be and express your true and authentic self and be comfortable in your own skin? Summertime? Heartsong: Attuned? The current Renaissance Man? Or maybe some other title? Maybe there are different titles that allow you to be comfortable being you more, and others that allow you to express yourself more?
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@Golgo13 — Heartsong: Attuned is the one to start with. You are right that the titles split: some help you feel at home being you, others help you put yourself out into the world. Attuned does both, and it starts with feeling at home in yourself.
Being comfortable as you
Attuned (Heartsong Stage 1) works on a sense of worth that was yours before anyone responded to you, so a compliment or a cold shoulder may stop deciding how you feel about yourself. At Home in My Body helps you feel the warmth of your own skin with no audience needed. Secure Ground and The Past Set Down help old reflexes loosen, so you may brace less. Attuned is for every heart, single or partnered, and although Heartsong is a love title, these capacities carry into every part of life. Attuned does not give you a new self to perform. It helps clear away what has been covering the one you already are.
Summertime works through the body. It quiets the low hum of social vigilance, the constant check on how you are coming across, so your relaxed, authentic self may become your everyday baseline instead of something that only shows up on holiday. Its aim is warmth, presence and play with the people around you.
Expressing yourself
Renaissance Man is the expression title. It is designed to break down the blocks on self-expression, whether you built them yourself or they were put on you, and to turn strong feeling into creativity of any kind. It is a free-spirited Zero Point title and intense by design, so it suits someone ready to feel everything and put it into their work.
Attuned covers expression in a quieter way. The Same Heart Everywhere helps you be one person in every room. Knowing What I Want helps you say what you want plainly, and Rejection Without Verdict helps you hear a no without it shaking you.
The pick, and a custom built around it
Attuned is the best fit because comfort in your own skin comes first, and expression tends to grow out of it. If you want to push both sides further, here is a custom built around Heartsong Core Stage 1:
- Heartsong Core Stage 1 carries the whole of Attuned in a core slot.
- ESSENCE: Endless Summer is Summertime in one module. It helps quiet that background vigilance so warmth and ease may become your baseline and you stop performing presence.
- Divine Self-Image helps you start loving your mind and body and eases negative thoughts about yourself, while keeping the motivation to improve.
- Inner Voice helps the voice in your head lift you up instead of putting you down.
- Finding Your Voice helps you work out what you actually think, feel and want, apart from what you were taught or what makes you likeable.
- Speaking Without Armor helps you drop image management and say what is true, uncertainty and struggles included.
- Unwitnessed Light helps you give your best whether or not anyone is watching, so praise and silence may stop changing how much you show up.
- Main Character Energy helps you stop apologizing for taking up space and make your choices as the author of your own life.
Endless Summer is the settling layer here. If you would rather that layer lean toward stillness than social warmth, ESSENCE: The Uncarved Block (PEACE) can take its place; Attuned and PEACE are one of Heartsong’s recommended pairings. Use one of the two, not both. Modules that repeat Attuned’s own work on worth, sensuality and closeness are left out on purpose.
Start with the full Attuned title if you want to keep it simple, or build this custom if you want the expression side included from the start. Listening guidance is in the official instructions: https://instructions.subliminalclub.com
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@qOS A custom involving Peace, Heartsong ST1, and Ascension ST2. Focusing on emotional foundation and acceptance, as well as masculine development and growth and that trio sounds pretty dope, just looking for a second opinion. Might even swap out Ascension ST2 at the beginning of the year with Emperor especially with it getting updated.
EDIT: Or do you think Peace and Heartsong ST1 would fit better in a custom with the new Khan Black? I would follow the standard progression of Khan Black stages btw. Also either way I would (at this point in time) be keeping Heartsong Stage 1 for the entire process.
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@qOS
what is it about running emperor that makes people more distant and standoffish
At first I thought it was just in my head, till I broke away from emperor and noticed people that I was more approachable, easier to socialize with etc.
I have GLM with become the prize essence and WDB with synergy venus unveiled
I have Emperor and PS in my QTKS custom
The main issue is it seems like family and some coworkers are becoming more standoffish and distancing themselves from me both physically and mentally
Lastly, I’ve used my QTKS for 45+ processing days, my GLM for 25 processing days and same with WDB. Can I take a 2 week washout or would I need to do 30 days processing in order to get all the benefits before taking a 2 week washout…and does it make a difference in bloom whether its a 2 week washout or a month washout if you’re running the same stack again
@qOS follow up on this, if someone already has pretty good sales skills and most of his work comes from the technical side of sales like presentations, etc has a sales rep that takes care of the actually selling but also does sales for the business side of his life but already has decent/good sales skills would remove ST1 and having those two modules be the best stack for me with A Stark Black Reality?
@qOS could you explain how masked vs ultrasonic version affects and delivers results for users? Like masked version is better because users hear “something”, or masked works differently.
Which method and framework users can use to decide masked or ultrasonic version is better for them, less recon, have more results and actions, etc.?
@qOS I would like to understand a few synergies for Hero Origins title.
- Can you detail how would a custom Hero Origins with Khan Black ST3 would work? this custom wont have more than 5 modules including the cores.
- In the Hero Origins - KB3 custom above, how would ESSENCE: A Perfect Unyielding perform?
- In the Hero Origins - KB3 custom above, how would ESSENCE: The Uncarved Block perform?
- In the Hero Origins - KB3 custom above, how would ESSENCE: The Spartan’s Creed perform?
Would a custom like below raise any concerns / overlaps / contradictions?
Hero Origins core
Khan Black ST3 core
ESSENCE: A Perfect Unyielding
ESSENCE: The Uncarved Block
ESSENCE: The Spartan’s Creed
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You recommended pairing WDB and WB. In the early days of the release there were concerns that these two titles could potentially clash. Is there more data now of people making both of them work together? And how would they interact?
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hey so on the custom subliminal website the name of the primal and the primal seduction cores are Primal Core (PriQ) (The core of Primal, upgraded to Q. Unleash your full, primal masculine potential.) and Primal Seduction Core (PrSeQ) (Primal Seduction Q’s core, the best of Primal and Sex & Seduction synergized in a whole new powerful way.). Are these the correct cores of the latest zp primal and the latest hybrid zpu primal seduction because even the images used for the core is different then the images used for the subliminal product pages.
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Also you recommended the new romance experience core how does it compare to Synergy: Perfection Manifestation? Both manifest partners i believe but new romance experience core seems more towards the girlfriend/relationship side? which isn’t a bad thing but I don’t want to attract women specifically looking for relationships. Right now I am not interested although my mind would change in the future, and for that perfect manifestation seems more versatile?
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also how would I balance this custom subliminal with wanted? I would look for signals from women and then engage with them? Also please compare alexanders play to the perfect manifestation and new romance experience. I want to ideally keep my custom as small as possible. primal and primal seduction cores are necessary the rest we can discuss. preferably one more core/module but i could think about 1-2 more as well.
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also what if i create a wanted+primal seduction custom instead of primal+primal seduction or primal+wanted? What would the differences be in terms of results with these different customs alongside the other modules mentioned in the previous question. I think primal seduction+wanted with the other modules like Alexander’s play would be way better right because then both main attraction titles are being boosted alongside additional cores/modules. I am assuming of course that wanted core would contain all of wanted scripting right and same for primal core etc or are these title core weaker than the separate subliminal
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since I am considering a romance/sexual based custom anyways what other options/combinations do I have instead of primal seduction. Maybe wanted dream boy and wanted? Ideally I wouldn’t want to approach a lot and have women approach me more via wanted so maybe I should try and max that out in custom or use wanted black although you previously advised not to. Although, personally I think approaching women yourself gives you more experience so I am not sure. I would not be removing primal or wanted or genesis ascension from my stack so the new combo suggestions should be regarding only wanted/primal or perhaps I would replace wanted with wanted black if you advise.
Meaning what?
@SaintSovereign i know you approve these answer but i thought this IS what longer listening times give
yeah, super confused with qOS reply too
Yes, I did approve it.
This is @qOS when it switches into caution mode. And I’m just being straightforward, no disrespect intended, but it switches into this mode when the individual keeps asking the same questions in different ways, as if they are trying to find some way to bypass the instructions. At that point, it’s going to give a generic answer to that individual that amounts to: “just run the title and follow the instructions.”
I’m going to clear the flag, but we’re expecting not to ask the exact same questions again. It even gave you a warning in an earlier question (which triggered the flag), where it noted that you keep changing stacks, listening times, listening methods, etc.
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@qOS What two are you talking about here? Endless Summer and The Uncarved Block?
Why shouldn’t I use both in a custom?
Thank you for dedicating all this time to getting all these qOS questions answered!
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